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hobbitbob
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chito-Ryu, from my understanding, was the product of a certain Dr. Chitose Tsuyeyose, an Okinawan Gynecologist who had studied with Itosu and Funakoshi before the war. It was brought to the US by William Dometrich, and to Canada by Tsuruoka Masami. I've never found any examples of the Kata on line, though I haev seen mention on the Cyberdojo forum that there is apparently some similarity between Chito and Shoto technique. I would love to know more about the style.
There was an article in Dragon Times a few months ago about Dr. Chitose,a dn Jose Fraguas' interview with Sensei Dometrich is in his compilation "Masters of Karate."
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Radok
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What could possibly be the point of soooooo many katas?
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ronryu
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Joined: 29 Nov 2001
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Location: griffin , ga
Styles: Shito ryu karate

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shi to ryu is the combanation of two styles Shuri te (shorin ryu) and naha te (goju ryu) as was mentioned in a previous reply it was taught as two different styles and even today you will see the naha te kata taught to higher ranks .

There is no way anyone can keep all of the vast kata of Shi to ryu we have a set of required kata about 25 or so to shodan not including kobudo kata which also is incorprated heavley into shi to ryu . You will learn many more then that but after you start your own dojo up it is up to you to decide the most important kata to you .

Remarkably most people keep the same required kata
tenno
chinno
pinan 1-5
matsukaze (wankan)
nihanchi 1-3
seiunchin
shisochin
bassai dai
kosokun dai (kushanku/kanku)
saifa
seisan
sochin
chinto
sanseiryu
sanchin
wanshu

these are the ones that i try to run on a regular basias. hope this helps .
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Karateka
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 9:48 pm    Post subject: I know someone who knows almost fifty Reply with quote

We have a regular Kata guy in our city who knows 50 of the Shi-to Ryu kata. As was mentioned, Kenway Mabuni was taught Shuri-te and Naha-te but also some White Crane Kata; plus he made some of his own. It is a true blend of everything.
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superleeds
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Joined: 03 Sep 2002
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Location: Bergen norway
Styles: Chito-Ryu Karate-Do

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My humble apologies for mistaking shi- to with chito. I didin`t realise until this weekend (after talking to my instructors) that those were different styles.
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Mark Groenewold
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matsukaze... never heard of that kata.

It is, however the name of a Noh drama. Are they related in some way?

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hobbitbob
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that Matsukaze is the Japanese rendering of the Hongan name of the kata Wanduan. I have never seen the kanji though, so I can't be sure. the two kata look similar, though.
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SaiFightsMS
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Styles: Shotokan, Shorin Ryu, Shi-to Ryu

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen the kata matsukaze in a form much like wankan. And, I have also seen another collection of matsukaze with 5 levels much like the taikokyus.
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