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BlueDragon
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2001 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first and only tournament was last December. I was a blue(fifth of six colored belts) fighting in the 14-16 year old category and the 155-170 weight class. I stepped on the mat for my first round match, bowed to everyone and got ready to fight. Just after the match begun I swung a roundhouse into the pads around my opponent's gut and he collapsed! Apparently I knocked the wind out of him and he didn't want to continue. I thought I was moving to the second round when one of the tournament heads approached me. He said that I was being kicked out for deliberatly injuring someone. My Sensei argued with him for a few minutes but it was useless. I think this is just another example of the softening of Martial Arts that will only give us serious students a bad name.
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ts757
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite frankly, even though i dont enter competitions, saying you cant continue because someone has winded you is PATHETIC. It takes a min or two to recover and then carrying on is no problem. A lot of the time this is due to people trying to remove the competition... it's a shame to think that the martial arts can be corrupted in this way.

I dont think the martial arts is becomming "soft", it's just some poeple are choosing to move away from the old school methods of training, where only light contact is acceptable.
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karateronin
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts757 if its full contact you want you got it.
I will instruct Mr Huton to train you personally.

[ This Message was edited by: karateronin on 2001-08-23 22:42 ]
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ts757
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2001 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohhhh, no I dont want any full contact, but anyone who wants to back out of a competition because they were winded is really foolish. I get winded on a regular basis by kristina and danielle when sparring with them. I ignore it and carry on to the best of my ability. Saying someone injured you because you were winded is quite unbelievable. I dont like sparring at all, but I do it and have my * seriously kicked on a regular basis.

I would like to point out that i am personally in favour of moving away from full contact and "old school" styles of teaching. It puts less strain on the NHS.
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winterkarate
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i also think that dropping out of a competition because your winded is pathtic, if you dont expect to get a little hurt you shouldn't take part. IT'S A MARTIAL ART!!! of course your gonna pick up injuries at some point and i dont hink being winded can even be classed as that! i hurt a lad doing team fighting he was smaller than me and i hurt his arm but he carried on and "beat" me. but not all decisions can go your way or the right way. you have to deal with it and let it go.
i wouldn't mind getting into full contact fighting because it appeals to me. but not to everyone.

my personal view on competitions is:
I LIKE 'EM, I LOVE 'EM, I WANT MORE OF 'EM!

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angiewinter
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2001 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay then

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are the people I hate. The people who think they can learn martial arts without getting hurt. All they wanna do is Kata, no self defence, no kumite, and in the end they expect to be like Jet Li. That is what is wrong with some Martial Arts, they let anyone in.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya i knid of do hate them most of them but in compations i always get nervous and screw up so i mostly do okay instead of good!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is alright if you screw up. Just as long as you learn from it and adapt from it. Then, screw up all you want. It will only make you better.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Karateka for your um........ inthusiaun
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