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F-S-K
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just did a pretty hard session on the bag
did some work without gloves also and the skin and stuff came off

is it necessary to condition the knuckles in kickboxing or not?

thanks in advance for the info
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thaiboxerken
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, just keep punching the bags and pads. That's all the conditioning you need. In a streetfight, it doesn't matter you'll still get cuts on your knuckles.

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F-S-K
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx for the advice, i wont hammer my knuckles for the sake of it
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2001 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

::edit::

Last edited by Bon on Sat Sep 28, 2002 10:25 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Iron Arahat
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2001 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When conditioning the hands, never make them bleed. You are doing alot of damage. Knuckle push up just develop large knuckles from calcium deposits, this will just give you problems later in life.

Build the muscle first, use the proper medicine to promote circulation and healing, massage, and don't overdo it. If you cut your hand let it heal before starting again.

As for kickboxing there is no real need as the gloves will diperse the force of the glove.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2001 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just make sure your hands are properly strapped before you put the gloves on.
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thaiboxerken
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2001 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put on bag gloves and that's it. I never wrap.. wrapping the hands serve as a crutch and the tendons/muscle that hold the wrist straight will not get stronger if you keep wrapping.

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Iron Arahat
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2001 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I dip my hands in honey first, then usually the chocolate sprinkles, and finally gummie bears for the added protection...

I can't remeber what Hot Shots movie it was, but it was pretty funny, making fun of Jean Claude and his Kickboxer movie.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2001 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just a joke here......
i have conditioned my hands..... first with jello, then pudding, next week i move up to tapioka ( it has particles in it that might hurt me).

but seriously..becareful and protect the hands with wraps and gloves. use proper punching techniques by making a tight fist and using the strong part of the fist (first two knuckles) to prevent boxers fractures.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2001 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In street fight, make your hand tough but not for god sake do not make your hands bleed.
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