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Joecooke007
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2001 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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What two forms of martial arts do you think would be the best to crosstrain in? Why?
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Angus
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
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Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Personally i think there are three types of arts that would make u an extremely well-rounded fighter: Muay Thai (kicks, knees, elbows, superior footwork), Boxing (Punches obviously, and ducking/weaving techniques), and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (ground techniques and locks etc). Send a private message to Thaiboxerken, cos he does all of these and more. I haven't seen him around here for a while though.
If i had had access to Muay Thai earlier i would have done this, but i only had access to freestyle kickboxing. I've done HapKiDo, Zen Do Kai, Goju Ryu Karate, Freestyle Kickboxing, Wushu, Boxing, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Later,
Angus
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Joecooke007
Brown Belt
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2001 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Thanks!
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moobrack
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Aug 2001
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Location: Leeds
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2001 5:51 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Angus, but I love karate too much to change, I am hapy with Shotokan Karate-Do and Matayoshi Okinawan Kobudo.
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Singularity
Yellow Belt
Joined: 29 Nov 2001
Posts: 85
Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2001 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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I definately agree with a Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu crosstraining method. You get some sweet sweet and effective kicks and punches, as well as some pretty nice ground power. |
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
Posts: 1299
Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu Karate do; Kung Fu.
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2001 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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For stand up Muay Thai, Boxing..
Grappling Wrestling, Brazilian Jiu jitsu. JKD or Kali for flowing into the diferent distances and for weapons training.
Submission Wrestling is good to for no gi grappling.
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ChangWuJi
Orange Belt
Joined: 23 Jul 2001
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2001 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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when I was 3 years into Tai-chi, I met a friend who was 3 years into Taikwondo, a 1st-dan black belt, I dont remember which school, and we trained together. It was my first attempt at sparring - until then I had only trained form, techniques from the form, and various types of Pushing-hands - and I have not trained against kicks at all; his school, on the other hand, emphasysed sparring a great deal. The first time we sparred, I was unprepared for the speed of his kicks, and had to retreat alot, but he was unprepared for the fact I never retreated backwards but allways sideways - he kept having to stop his attacks (which hit nothing) and look for me.
The second time I had learned to get in close, and he was lost at that range. After that, he was mine.
The point is not "Tai-chi is better than Taikwondo" - the point is that the sensitivity learned in Pushing-Hands, if practiced over a long time, is much more helpfull to a realistic fight than one might think after only sampling it; and the movement skills perfected in form training are just as effective as those learned any other way, if not more so.
"People with little or no real knowledge or skill try some of these arts for awhile and conclude that they need to add something to make it work."
I have seen this happening all over - people training a year or two in Aikido going to learn also Taikwondo, "because there are no kicks in Aikido", and people training in Tai-chi for a year or two going to learn Ninjitsu "because Tai-chi is not for self-deffence", and so on... Instead of sticking to one art and learning all it has to offer, systematicaly, they cross-train to learn everything at once. Tai-chi can be for self-deffence, and there are kicks in Aikido, if you stay long enough to learn it.
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SaiFightsMS
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Joined: 28 Oct 2001
Posts: 6397
Location: Ohio
Styles: Shotokan, Shorin Ryu, Shi-to Ryu
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately too few of us know anything approaching the full range of tai chi. There is a very martial aspect to some forms.
It is also all too true that we seldom persevere long enough to learn the full range of the art we started our initial training in.
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