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Dobbersky
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:42 am    Post subject: Daughter coming back to Karate! Reply with quote

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I'm adding this to this and a few other Forums I'm on, but I know we don't all visit the same Forums.

My Daughter is coming back to Class after a few years break.
1 lesson a week and I will not be asking her to grade, just learn 1 kata which is at her level. If she wanted to grade then she asks my Friend and Assistant Instructor to grade her (She would then have to learn all the kata upto her level if she wanted to take her Black Belt).
When she left the class she reached Brown Belt 3rd Kyu so she will continue with Brown belt until whenever she wants to go for 2nd Kyu etc.

So why am I telling you this. Well last night she texted me telling me shes coming to my house (her mother and I are divorced) because she's been in a fight. Now my response after this was "Did she win???" not is she ok etc etc.
Now I was concerned about her but was it wrong to think that?
Now when she got home she told me the "full" story.
It was a typical teenage confrontation the "What you looking at?" blah blah blah. it did cool of she said and she started to walk away but the girl's sister got involved and they both attacked her. She knocked at least one tooth out of the first girl, her sister was just pulling and scratching at her from behind (dead brave).
I cleaned her cuts etc and said if you were training she wouldn't have been hit as much.

Now I been longing for her to carry on with her Karate and this is like an answer but even though I want her to be strong etc She's still my little girl if you know what I mean

Your thoughts please
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darksoul
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: Daughter coming back to Karate! Reply with quote

Dobbersky wrote:
All

I'm adding this to this and a few other Forums I'm on, but I know we don't all visit the same Forums.

My Daughter is coming back to Class after a few years break.
1 lesson a week and I will not be asking her to grade, just learn 1 kata which is at her level. If she wanted to grade then she asks my Friend and Assistant Instructor to grade her (She would then have to learn all the kata upto her level if she wanted to take her Black Belt).
When she left the class she reached Brown Belt 3rd Kyu so she will continue with Brown belt until whenever she wants to go for 2nd Kyu etc.

So why am I telling you this. Well last night she texted me telling me shes coming to my house (her mother and I are divorced) because she's been in a fight. Now my response after this was "Did she win???" not is she ok etc etc.
Now I was concerned about her but was it wrong to think that?
Now when she got home she told me the "full" story.
It was a typical teenage confrontation the "What you looking at?" blah blah blah. it did cool of she said and she started to walk away but the girl's sister got involved and they both attacked her. She knocked at least one tooth out of the first girl, her sister was just pulling and scratching at her from behind (dead brave).
I cleaned her cuts etc and said if you were training she wouldn't have been hit as much.

Now I been longing for her to carry on with her Karate and this is like an answer but even though I want her to be strong etc She's still my little girl if you know what I mean

Your thoughts please


Thanks for sharing.

My thoughts on this are simple - it's GREAT that she's coming back to training. Of course she will always be your little girl, but how much better would you be able to sleep at night knowing that she is a trained and competent black belt? When she's off to college and you can't be there to protect her, she will be able to defend herself against whatever comes at her.

I know that if my wife and I have a child (we're not the parental types and are just happy with our dog, but I digress) (s)he will be in the martial arts from an early age.

I'm very happy for you and while I understand your parental instincts, this is a very, very good thing.

Cheers!
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ShoriKid
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got two girls, sounds like much younger than yours, that I dearly want to see actively training too. They can kick as well or better than anyone in the kids class, but they don't enjoy the class and don't want to learn the kata. Hit pads and work on break falls and they are all there though..

Putting a degree of separation between you and your daughter as far as promotions is likely good for both of you. From the sounds of it she was already up to training before this fight? If so, it can be a good lesson learned. Don't beat her up about it too much or it might drive her into her shell. Have her walk you through it as she recalls it and then ask what she did that seemed to work and what didn't. Then ask if she would like to work on things that will shore up problems she had in the fight. Spend a little time helping set up drills, or bringing out the existing ones done in your dojo, that cover the sort of SD situation. I guess I'm saying show her the direct benefit or resuming training. Good on you for encouraging your daughter to train though and not pressuring her.
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Dobbersky
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Daughter is now 17 and she gave up when she was around 14-15, she wanted to be with her friends from school, but I think she rebelled as it was the time when her mother and I separated (now divorced).

She's been through a lot really and sometimes I think she's a little to over confident and yes I'm glad she's coming back but what I really want to tech her is that sometimes walking away without reacting is normally the best policy as what if one of them had a knife etc.

Strange as she's as tall as I am but she's still my little girl and my son, who's 2, will again always be my little boy. I think every parent goes through the same anguish at times.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad for you and your daughter to be training together.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear your daughter is getting back on the mat! I definitely hope that her reintroduction to karate is beneficial to her, and helps her cope with the past, the present and the future in the best ways possible!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shorikid

If your daughters don't enjoy karate/kempo style training and you want them to study martial arts, let them try out and choose between some others. From what you describe Judo or (kick)boxing might be more fun for them.

How old are they by the way?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear that your daughter is coming back to karate. She's got your support, and that's what's needed. Without a support base, karate, the MA, is a long and dreadful thing to partake.

Sometimes, karate is nothing, not over our children. And nothing is guaranteed, not even if you're a black belt. Things happen. And you're right, her well being is far more important than if she won and if she trained more she might have faired better.

Emotions are hard, and karate is hard. But, she'll be ok!!


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