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Spartacus Maximus
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 Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 6:21 pm Post subject: Define serious training/practise |
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| Many discussions about martial arts raise the idea of “serious” versus “casual” practitioners. What really defines a serious practitioner of martial arts? Is it the number of hours per day or week? Does “serious” only apply to those who run a school or compete? What is YOUR definition? |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
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Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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A very noticed and marked improvement over time through their mature approach to their training/practice.
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OneKickWonder
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Joined: 17 Feb 2018
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Styles: Tang soo do
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Someone who doesn't just accept what they're told as the best all and end all, but rather takes what they've been taught and practices it, including in their own time, and tries to visualise it's use, and tries to understand it's broad range of applications.
Someone who uses every training opportunity not to show how cool they are, but instead to figure out what needs more work next. |
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JR 137
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Joined: 10 May 2015
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Location: In the dojo
Styles: Seido Juku
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Serious training is when someone is training hard and putting forth a high effort rather than just going through the motions.
Go to a gym and watch people on an exercise bike. Some are reading a magazine or watching tv. Others are actually sweating and putting in work. Same difference. |
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Spartacus Maximus
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Styles: Shorin ryu
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| It is interesting to see that nobody has mentioned time spent training and practising. How much does it really count? |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| sensei8 wrote: |
A very noticed and marked improvement over time through their mature approach to their training/practice.
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I think this is a pretty good way of looking at it. Somebody can be very serious about their training and yet not be very talented.
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| It is interesting to see that nobody has mentioned time spent training and practising. How much does it really count? |
This can be a tough one. There are a lot of people who can't dedicate as much of their time as they would like to their training. Yet when they do train, they take it very seriously and work hard at improving. I think that person could still be considered a serious Martial Artist.
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JR 137
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| sensei8 wrote: |
A very noticed and marked improvement over time through their mature approach to their training/practice.
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I think this is a pretty good way of looking at it. Somebody can be very serious about their training and yet not be very talented.
| Spartacus Maximus wrote: |
| It is interesting to see that nobody has mentioned time spent training and practising. How much does it really count? |
This can be a tough one. There are a lot of people who can't dedicate as much of their time as they would like to their training. Yet when they do train, they take it very seriously and work hard at improving. I think that person could still be considered a serious Martial Artist. |
I only get to the dojo twice a week, for 2.5 hours total. But when I’m there, it’s definitely not casual. |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| JR 137 wrote: |
| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| sensei8 wrote: |
A very noticed and marked improvement over time through their mature approach to their training/practice.
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I think this is a pretty good way of looking at it. Somebody can be very serious about their training and yet not be very talented.
| Spartacus Maximus wrote: |
| It is interesting to see that nobody has mentioned time spent training and practising. How much does it really count? |
This can be a tough one. There are a lot of people who can't dedicate as much of their time as they would like to their training. Yet when they do train, they take it very seriously and work hard at improving. I think that person could still be considered a serious Martial Artist. |
I only get to the dojo twice a week, for 2.5 hours total. But when I’m there, it’s definitely not casual. |
I'm with ya there. I get two classes in a week right now, and one of those is spent teaching, so I don't get much of a workout in.
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Nidan Melbourne
KF Sempai
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
Posts: 2358
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Styles: Goju-Ryu, BJJ, Balintawak Arnis
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| I feel like it is someone who questions what they are doing and improving. |
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Himokiri Karate
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Joined: 13 Aug 2009
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Styles: Boxing, Korean Karate
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Good answers and truth is, there is different deminison to a persons seriousness towards training. From what I have experienced that distinguishes the casuals vs the serious are:
Casuals:
- Weight loss/fitness
- Fan of the martial arts
- Looking for an activity and they found martial arts
Serious:
- Cares deeply about every small movement in their form/technique
- Studies the movements and history of the martial art style that they are practicing
- Serious effort to reach the pinnacle of that art in combat or technical/physical mastery
Now its hard to say how many days. Myself, when I was a casual boxing fan. I was training 5 times a week because I had the time. This schedule seems like it would make me a serious trainee but fact of the matter is, I was hitting the bag and being fit but there was no internal dialogue or real passion for the moves that I was practicing.
Then I fell in love with boxing but could not train everyday because I was helping family business. So I could only train 3 times a week but I was so madly in love with the boxing footwork/martial arts movement that I was practicing it at home late at night. I remember improving during the 3 times a week training because the passion and internal dialogue and conscious attention to details was there. |
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