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neoravencroft
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:05 pm    Post subject: Difference between Judo and BJJ? Reply with quote

I was just wondering if there was a difference between BJJ and Judo? I know they both work with grappling and submissions, but I think Judo also incorporates throws?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJJ is a filter of Judo at an earlier stage. Judo is focused on throwing techniques from a clinch; BJJ is a fork off of Judo that focuses entirely on submission and wrestling.
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Nidan Melbourne
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically what JusticeZero said!

BJJ does have many throws that come from Judo, but have removed many of them due to the adjustment made by the Founders of the Art when they suffered from Asthma (from memory) as such couldn't do Judo.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got the bare bones of the difference here. There are some other differences, as well, but for the most part, its the focus of the two arts that separate them.
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Tempest
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was just wondering if there was a difference between BJJ and Judo? I know they both work with grappling and submissions, but I think Judo also incorporates throws?


Sigh... this is a difficult question to answer accurately, especially with the modern competition Judo rules.. *growl*.

Let me start by saying that the line between what is Judo and what is BJJ is much thinner than some would like to believe. Most of the techniques used in BJJ are commonly taught in Judo as well. The biggest difference is in mindset and overall theory of an encounter.

Typically, Judo is not taught with the idea that you will be defending against, for example, striking techniques, where as in BJJ, this is standard from the beginning.

BJJ classes often, not always, but often start on the ground. Judo tends to start standing and really the focus is on the throw. In Judo, it is not enough to get the fight to the ground, it is also HOW you get there that matters.
In competition, a Judo match ends with a good throw. BJJ matches tend to end in a submission or through points mostly gained through groundwork. In Judo, groundwork has to be EXPLOSIVE to avoid stalling penalties. In BJJ, groundwork should be methodical to avoid your opponent escaping a position and to allow you to continue to advance to the next position.
These are some of the main differences, but overall there are more similarities than differences truthfully and you will find a number of athletes that do both for various reasons. Including me.
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TJ-Jitsu
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty simple.

Judo is cool.

BJJ is Super Cool.... ;p

Seriously though...
Simple explanation- fight starts with Judo and ends with jiu jitsu.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me, they're day and night, all around; focuses different with each having their own faults, yet, more successes than not!!



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