Disrespectful act

jaypo · Purple Belt

A while back, 3 ladies started training with us with no experience. One of them is clearly head and shoulders above the other 2. The next one is above average. But there is 1 that does not take instruction well, she doesn't learn what is taught, and she doesn't show the proper respect. In her tests, during Kumite, she goes full on Mike Tyson on her opponents with no control whatsoever. Ironically, she believes that she is the better of the 3.

During her last test, she was testing with her fellow classmates, and the other 2 ladies obtained advanced green ranking. She had heard someone mention that they think she made green and not advanced green. She made the comment that "I'm not going to accept it". However, the Master Instructor felt that she did well enough to advance and gave her the advanced green ranking. The situation was addressed, and everything was fine.

Last night, while discussing the next testing cycle, it was made clear that the best of the 3 would be testing for advanced purple (and she deserves it- she trains twice as hard and is just flat out better- the 2nd is injured and won't be testing). One of the black belts that is on the grading board said that the student in question would only be testing for blue, which would be the next rank from where she is. Upon hearing this, she told a fellow classmate that if she couldn't test for the rank that her fellow student was testing for, she would quit because she thinks that she is better than the other lady.

Fast forward to class- myself and another Nidan were asked to each perform a different kata and demonstrate applications, which we did. This student was asked to perform Heina Nidan, which is a lower level kata, in front of the class, and she absolutely butchered it. She forgot techniques, she performed techniques from the wrong kata, and she wouldn't listen to the Master Instructor's count. She went back to her spot, and while performing the next kata, the M.I. said, "Come on, green belt! Do the techniques correctly!" She then said, "I'm done for tonight", and walked out of class abruptly.

Personally, I'd like to request that she not return to training with us. Have any of you ever had a similar situation?
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andym · Green Belt

Only with children...which is how she is behaving. Children were given a chance, then told not to return. She obviously doesn't understand the etiquette of the martial arts. She needs to be told in no uncertain terms, the what and why of it. If that makes no difference, then it's time for her to leave.
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jaypo · Purple Belt

That is exactly how I feel. I'll be meeting with the board and discussing it.
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ps1 · Black Belt

Actions always have causes. The MI, if he actually cares about the students, should speak with her in private and try to get to the root of her self esteem issues.
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jaypo · Purple Belt

I sort of remember the first class that she was in while I was training. She did something well, and a made a comment that went something like "this girl came to me and said she wants to make black belt in 14 months". Or something like that.

So my first impression was that she was 100% all in. However, after training with her, it's clear that she doesn't feel like putting in the work, she doesn't learn anything, and she's more fascinated with the color around her waist than she is about the skills being taught. Yet, she believes that she is the best martial artist in the class EVEN when she botches something as simple as Heian Nidan.
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Archimoto · Purple Belt

tallgeese · Black Belt

Nidan Melbourne · KF Sempai

It frustrates me when people behave like that.

Personally your M.I. should speak to her privately to find out whats going on.

if she thinks she is top stuff (I went the PG route instead of the M rating for Patrick), then why can't she do the most basic of kata well?

Spartacus Maximus · Black Belt

The simplest way to deal with this type of behaviour is to refuse to test the problem student until the attitude is changed. The student will either stay and train or leave. Either way problem fixed.

There is no reason an instructor should accept to waste time with people like that. Customer service relations be damned! Students are their to learn but what is the point of going to the dojo if they are not ready or willing to accept being taught?

Hawkmoon · Pre-Black Belt

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