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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeet Kune Do is based all around feinting.

We never go in without doing it. And if you don't react to it well you still get hit.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once feinted a fainting to lure a opponet to drop their guard. Does this count as feinting?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RichardZ wrote:
I once feinted a fainting to lure a opponet to drop their guard. Does this count as feinting?

ROFL...Sure...why not!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach, and use feints often, but not always because in class my students get wise to it and don't fall for them any more.

Where feints are good are with someone taht doesn't know how you fight. Bringing yoru foot up like you're going to front kick him in the groin will usually cause your "not-so-skilled opponent to bend slightly at the waist, breaking their center of gravity, and also usually makes them lower their guard/hands. Watching yoru opponents reaction to a feint you use is useful so that you can set them up later with that same technique, but this time follow it with a punch to the face or whatever.

Same thing applies with a feint of a punch. Often it causes the inexperienced opponent to brinbg his hands up to cover his face, which in turn leaves his groin and torso exposed to a kick.

I've used them successfully in a SD situation also and they work GREAT!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feints are the next best thing to sliced bread in the martial arts! The better one's at feinting the easier it is to manipulate a opening. The better one can feint the easier it is to expose intentions. The better one can feint the better one can eliminate any detectable telegraphing.

Feinting is like a fine wine; aged until it's as perfect as it can be.

In whether it's used in the dojo, at tournaments, and/or in any self-defense situation; feinting has become a lost art, find it, embrace it, reclaim it, train in it, but, by the power of Houdini, master the feints' slight of hand techniques.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you feint you need to feint as If you about to hit them. Then if they fall for it be ready to change line.

If they don't then renew the attack and hit them anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget feinting's little brother, drawing...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And drawing's sister, deception.
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