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Nevinyrral
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:18 pm    Post subject: Fighting ability- I there a limit? Reply with quote

Hello everyone.

I wanted to hear your opinions on fighting ability.

Do you think there is a limit to someones potential, or can I fighter continue growing indefinately?

I personally believe each fighter has a ceiling to his combat abilities and once he reaches it, he can only train to stay at his best as long as he can, but slowly with time he will drop in ability.

Anyway what are your thoughts?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you think there is a limit to someones potential, or can I fighter continue growing indefinitely?

Yes, there's a limit to someone's potential!! No, a fighter can't continue growing indefinitely!!

In short, none of us can stay at our most effective physical peak forever. Age catches up to everyone whether one likes it or not.

Accepting that, well, that's an entirely different thing.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would agree. Not everyone has the same limitations, of course, but the human body has rules by which is develops, and there is only so much progress one can make before the body starts to degrade. There are tons of variables that go into that, of course, but I would say that is a pretty well-understood expectation in combat sports.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree as well. As in any form of human achievement, there exists the law of diminishing returns. Some people, based on genetics, have higher ceilings than others that aren't so lucky.

But, in order to reach that potential, the combination of genetics and hard work have a huge affect.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah i agree too.

If not, and assuming that people could improve indefinitely then Lennox Lewis would still be world heavyweight champ and GSP would still be UFC WW champ (he still trains like a machine!).

If there was no ceiling or limit then in most sports that have a masters division they would be viewed as the real champ!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely agree. Everyone has a ceiling. Either due to physical parameters, training time, recovery, etc. or just due to age. There's a curve to all of this.
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