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phanthomspectre
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:43 pm    Post subject: Finding "the classics" Reply with quote

Hi!
Ive been in the internal arts for many years,
...but thats not why I am posting this.

I guess, I have been able to find many of the old "classics"
on the internal arts by Sun Lu Tang, except his fourth
book: the esoteric way of the martial arts.

Apparently he tried to put down what he knew about the internal
arts, but evidently only he knew what he was saying.
Anybody eles know where to get more of these works,
like Jiang Rongqiao, etc..?
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monkeygirl
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many different MA suppliers carry books, but so do some of your local bookstores. Amazon.com might even have it. I have to leave here in a sec so I don't have time to search for you (sorry), but maybe that will give you a start.
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KickChick
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... actually the problem you are going to find with these "classics" , are that many of them are not yet translated or that very few are available for purchase. Try your local library .... (everyone seems to forget about those buildings that contain kazillions of those hard-to-find square objects filled with paper!)

As far as Jiang Rongqiao, wasn't sure what book you were interested in but you may find a few here
http://www.plumpub.com/sales/taichi_books.htm also books from Sun Lu-tang. In his lifetime he commercially published five works on different forms of martial arts that he was skilled in ... not sure if "the esoteric way of the martial arts" was book four or not
Your best bet is actually to go directly to a publishing house (in this case in Taipei) which most undoubtedly will offer un-translated books.
http://www.taipeipublishers.org.tw/engpq_result.asp?PRODUCT=40&trigger=1
OR Go to LION BOOKS....one of Taiwan's best martial arts publishers...
http://www.plumpub.com/sales/lion_books.htm

You may not find that particular book but I'm sure you will find something that catches your interest!
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Kensai
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately I have no idea where to find that text. Most of the classics are hard to get your hands on.

Best of luck in your search.
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omnifinite
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KickChick wrote:
... actually the problem you are going to find with these "classics" , are that many of them are not yet translated or that very few are available for purchase. Try your local library .... (everyone seems to forget about those buildings that contain kazillions of those hard-to-find square objects filled with paper!)

I want your library . Mine is pretty nice but I wouldn't say they have anything hard to find... especially where MA are concerned .
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KickChick
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omnifinite wrote:
I want your library


I got two actually!! in the city I live in .... and have access to Yale University's library facilities
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Kensai
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OHH little miss special.........."I have two liberarys".

Well I have 87 books on MA so

Do you think there should be a good specisialised Martial Arts books web store?
Although Amazon is good, there is no other really reliable alternative.
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phanthomspectre
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I didn't even think of that company in Taipei.

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KickChick
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... out of those 87 books, do you have a speilling dictionary ...J/K Kensai!

You asking for "the world's leading publisher of in-depth, well researched martial arts books from related disciplines around the world?"
http://www.cfw2.com/dept.asp?dept_id=9

I'm nothing special (believe me!)
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Kensai
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2003 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Touche KickChick, no wonder you are sooooo unpopular!

Just kidding.


The website does not look that amazing and its in that funny Yank money.
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