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Dobie1979
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I haven't seen it a lot in UFC and I'm wondering if we'll see more. I bet more people will start to use it. In the examples they first set it up with low kicks and them BAM!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Machida's skip/jump was to close thaat tiny bit of distance he needed to land the the kick. The front kick is used all the time in MMA. The fighters use it as a push kick than a snapping kick. The reason you don't see the head level front kicks is they are a afraid of giving up the take down.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you, but in the time I have watched MMA fights, I haven't seen that many takedowns while guys were standing on one leg from kicking. I haven't watched in a while, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pittbullJudoka wrote:
The front kick is used all the time in MMA. The fighters use it as a push kick than a snapping kick.


There is a difference between a push kick and a front snap kick. The way that Anderson and Lyoto throw the kick has much worse intentions than a probing push kick.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to 7th dan Steven Seagal.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quinteros1963 wrote:
pittbullJudoka wrote:
The front kick is used all the time in MMA. The fighters use it as a push kick than a snapping kick.


There is a difference between a push kick and a front snap kick. The way that Anderson and Lyoto throw the kick has much worse intentions than a probing push kick.


I think Pittbull was pointing that out. Most MMA guys have a Thai base for their kicks, hence the push kick. Some don't. Like Lyoto, and Anderson if you count his long past TKD training when he was a kid.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would think you would see it more in mma than you do, and its said you don't. Front snap kicks are about the most effective and easily set up.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd point back to the prominence of Thai Boxing as the training background that most MMA guys get their kicks from. There, most of your front kicks are to get distance as push kicks to the body. A very different technique than even a sharp front kick to the body.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I'd like to see mma fighters untilize is the front kick to the hip crease. As it is very effective at disruppting timing, foot work, and breaking the posture of your opponent.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pittbullJudoka wrote:
What I'd like to see mma fighters untilize is the front kick to the hip crease. As it is very effective at disruppting timing, foot work, and breaking the posture of your opponent.

And it sets up that knockout so nicely. This is my go to kicking target. I only weigh around 130 and this is how I beat guys twice my size.
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