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Gordon Ramsey
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If taking down the big guy works then keep doing it
Bashing little people does nothing
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes sense the reasons to attack the frontman, but my school always advised going after the weakest opponent first. That way you can take them out or control them, somehow keeping them in between you and the main group, similar to a human shield. I always saw it as a delaying tactic to buy you time and an escape route. After all isn't running the wisest thing to do in a gang fight?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's similar to my explanation of dealing with being held by someone with a weapon - "The first thing you need to do is to get their mind out of their trigger finger/knife and into the back of their head. Otherwise you won't have the time or space to act." With a group, you have to get their minds out of the group and into their individual heads - against a mob of people, you can't realistically win, but against a group of thinking, self-aware individuals, you have a bit of hope. Destroying the leader is supposed to shock them out of the group and back into their own heads.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ryanryu wrote:
It makes sense the reasons to attack the frontman, but my school always advised going after the weakest opponent first. That way you can take them out or control them, somehow keeping them in between you and the main group, similar to a human shield. I always saw it as a delaying tactic to buy you time and an escape route. After all isn't running the wisest thing to do in a gang fight?


That's reasonable, if the weakest person is close enough to get to. Most likely, they are in the back, or flanked by a few protectors. So, you kind of have to take what's given you.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going for the biggest guy is smart, but, risky. Why? If you don't take the big guy out then you'll NOW have a very mad big guy; bad combination! Go for it, but you better take care of it right then and there...or run...fast!

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It makes sense the reasons to attack the frontman, but my school always advised going after the weakest opponent first. That way you can take them out or control them, somehow keeping them in between you and the main group, similar to a human shield. I always saw it as a delaying tactic to buy you time and an escape route. After all isn't running the wisest thing to do in a gang fight?

I like that plan as well.


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