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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By all means!

In my opinion, any attention to Okinawan or (any Karate styles for that matter) that showcases in MMA or full contact resistance is priceless.
It will be interesting to hear more about fighters with Wado Ryu and Uechi Ryu background utilizing their techniques in MMA competitions. While I am not aware of any well-known fighters practicing them, despite the fact that I am aware of their effectiveness! a Good example for instance would be seiji nishimura of Wado Ryu, guy is incredible at kumite

now back to the Goju Links you posted

It's intriguing because one of the remarks beneath the YouTube links you provided criticizes the Goju Ryu sparring as resembling MMA.
Owner of the video's response was as follows:


"Irikumi, a traditional type of Karate sparring that included grappling and striking, was kept by schools like Goju-ryu and subsequently evolved into competition in the 1980s.
MMA is younger than Irikumi."


That's a fascinating piece of information about Goju that I didn't know.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes goju has done a much better job of keeping its grappling than shotokan and many other styles have.

I think you値l find with most goju schools they had sparring (if not competition) that resembles MMA to some level, or kyokushin rules.

While I知 sure you値l still have no real trouble finding goju schools that fit the mcdojo archetype I think in goju it値l be much less common place than other styles.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycIYJ2USJQs&t=53s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBrWIfIbX-A&t=7s
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, Shotokan's traditional curriculum doesn't really use many grappling techniques. Some Shotokan lineages do teach throws but at higher dan levels.
In contrast to strikes, the bunkai breakdown of my Shorin Ryu training featured more stand-up grappling and throwns.

I actually came across those videos you posted


here is the one with Meitetsu Yagi sensei at Goju-ryu Yagi dojo in Okinawa.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsBsyCLBTUg

10 man kumite with the bigger gentlemen going nonstop for 14 minutes. They were hurling everything they could think of at him. His third opponent had excellent technique.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just purchased a book with a long ol' title, that's supposed to have some indepth information about goju. some sort of desk reference, the author was featured in the goju episodes from the art of one dojo YT channel.

i'll let you all know what i think about it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the title of the book?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zaine wrote:
What's the title of the book?
I'd like to know, too. I'd love to have another good MA book on the shelf.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LionsDen wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycIYJ2USJQs&t=53s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBrWIfIbX-A&t=7s


That's some good looking sparring. That would be fun to do.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bushido_man96 wrote:
LionsDen wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycIYJ2USJQs&t=53s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBrWIfIbX-A&t=7s


That's some good looking sparring. That would be fun to do.

This is something I find interesting.

Karate and likely many other TMAs typically refer to competitions as sparring, whereas more modern combat sports people tend to draw a hard line between sparring and their actual competitions.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far I知 only 30 or so pages in. Nothing particularly interesting in regards to training related information.

Apparently some fancy martial arts committee labeled goju as an ancient Japanese martial art, the only style of karate to be recognized as such
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