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innocui
Yellow Belt
Joined: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 28
Location: Newcastle, England (TOOM ARMY, TOON ARMY)
Styles: Go-Kan Ryu Karate
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 Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: grades |
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If anyone experiences higher grades being disresfectful, i have something to make you feel better, one of my Senseis told me:
For a black tip to become a black belt, they must train like a black belt.
So, for someone to earn their next belt, they already have to be that belt, or they wouldn't grade.
Also, the belt system is a state of mind. I am a high belt (2nd kyu) and i am a member of my club's Newcastle tournament team. when i train with the other team members (many of whom are now black belt) I am not on the same level as the in regard to kata, but in kumite, I can spar any of them, we all score equal points, and in that respect everybody is equal.
Don't be put down by higher grades, all martial artists are equal |
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patusai
Black Belt
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Posts: 1648
Location: Palos Hills, IL
Styles: So Ryu, Shorin Ryu, Isshin Ryu
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| And people with no belts at all that are just good streetfighters have defeated high ranking black belts. |
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jaymac
Black Belt
Joined: 14 Dec 2005
Posts: 1133
Styles: shotokan (nidan)
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Unfortunately in this day and age, I do not think that a person holding a black belt necessarily makes them awesome. Many people are promoted to Shodan because they have spent their time in at the dojo. Hence---"McDojo's" Don't get me wrong, there are some awesome black belts out there and even in the school I train in. My instructor I feel is absolutely one of the best, that is why I stay. What I am saying though is I have seen great black belts and great white belts and so on. Rank is individual. Some people want to be awesome. Some people just want to go to class for physical fitness. Some go just for fun. Every belt wearer is different.
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MartialArthur
Orange Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
Posts: 161
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| patusai wrote: |
| And people with no belts at all that are just good streetfighters have defeated high ranking black belts. |
And people who are good streetfighters have been beaten by people who have guns. And people who have guns have been hit by a bus... and so on and so on...
I don't think anyone is claiming that there is a rank that is invincible. Just like a world champion (Football/Baseball/Soccer/etc) team can be defeated by the last place team on any given day, so can the best fighter be defeated by a lesser fighter.
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patusai
Black Belt
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Posts: 1648
Location: Palos Hills, IL
Styles: So Ryu, Shorin Ryu, Isshin Ryu
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| Ok, There is always someone better. |
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parkerlineage
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 948
Location: Redding, CA
Styles: American Kenpo - 12 years; Danzan Ryu Ju Jitsu - Starting! (Dabbled in Wushu, Eagle Claw)
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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And buses have been blown up by explosives. And explosives have been dismantled by bomb squads. And members of the bomb squad have (possibly) been beat in training by other police members. And police officers have (possibly) been trained by a martial arts practicioner. Who has probably been beaten by a black belt. And...
Ah...the Circle of Life (tm).
NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANGTS INGONYA'MA.........
hehe...
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ki master
Orange Belt
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 134
Location: Laurel MS
Styles: muay thai, kung fu, soo bak, ju-jitsu
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thanks
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Blackbeltblonde
Yellow Belt
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 81
Location: Where ever I am.. I am located there ;)
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We had students in our school quit because we would not allow them to move up in rank.. we told them why.. they didn't like it and went somewhere else.
We also had a guy who joined our school, his sister joined another school and he got so frustraited that his sister got her black belt first.. but couldn't do have the stuff he could.. or do her stuff really well... So sad. 
~BBB
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patusai
Black Belt
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Posts: 1648
Location: Palos Hills, IL
Styles: So Ryu, Shorin Ryu, Isshin Ryu
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We had students in our school quit because we would not allow them to move up in rank.. we told them why.. they didn't like it and went somewhere else.
We also had a guy who joined our school, his sister joined another school and he got so frustraited that his sister got her black belt first.. but couldn't do have the stuff he could.. or do her stuff really well... So sad.
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Unfortunately (or in some rare cases it's fortunate I suppose) there is always someone out there that will promote anyone  |
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Sohan
Black Belt
Joined: 08 Apr 2006
Posts: 1986
Location: Atlanta
Styles: Shorin Ryu Karate-Do, Muay Thai, Shudokan Karate-Do, Boxing, BJJ, Hung Gar Gung Fu
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I will admit that when I began MA I was somewhat of a belt hound. I craved the next level and missed the point of why I was training. Therefore my initial experience with Tang Soo Do was less than satisfying. Even when I began Shorin-ryu/Shudokan I was probably too focused on achieving my next belt, and often was mostly interested in the material needed for that next strip of cloth. It took a layoff and an examining of my priorities to realize that being a black, brown, green belt, etc, is not about rank, ego, or power, but rather about responsibility, personal achievement, and devotion to the art. My focus dramatically shifted and today I feel I have more integrity as a martial artist because my rewards are intrinsic, not externally gained by a strip of cotton around my waist.
Respectfully,
Sohan
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on the post.
