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Radok
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Styles: Okinawan Shorin-ryu Karate-do

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm working on it, I will tell you my discoveries as I find them.
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Treebranch
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Joined: 21 Mar 2003
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Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll pass through the guard with my knife.
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goshinman
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Joined: 23 Jul 2003
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Location: pasadena,ca
Styles: hakko densin ryu jujutsu, shuai chiao, catchwrestling, and some judo/sambo

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Treebranch wrote:
I'll pass through the guard with my knife.


This guy has a damn good sense of humor! ROTFL!! It's funny because I was thinking the same thing, seems as if taijitsu has some techniques for cheating as well.

No but seriously can you imagine the damage a trained knife fighter can do in that position? It would be brutal! Just imagine the onlookers faces when they see that, they would all be like
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goshinman
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radok wrote:
1. Spite is a funny word. sorry.
2.Actually, I was told they were there by one of the few 7'th degree black belts of the system.
3. this is funny. There is a Karate practitioner of three years telling you it has ground fighting and you tell me it doesn't. I guess it's just in my imagination then right?


Actually some of the kata of the okinawin styles can be interpreted as groudfighting/grappling moves such as an armbar and the like. And they do train to strike from the ground effectively as well. Check out bushido-kai.com to learn of these applications.
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Radok
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. In passai dai, there is an armbar which I believe was meant for the ground.
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Treebranch
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taijutsu is all about cheating. It's a very manipulative MA.
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1ONEfighting
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Joined: 11 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No such thing as cheating on the street, just winning.
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Treebranch
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very well said 1ONefighting.
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KungFuLou
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would seem to me that when a person is very close, a master of pressure points and vital areas would be able to hurt them quite badly. Why has nobody mentioned this?
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TJS
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Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843

Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KungFuLou wrote:
It would seem to me that when a person is very close, a master of pressure points and vital areas would be able to hurt them quite badly. Why has nobody mentioned this?


George dillman wrote an article in Black belt magazine about how a "pressure point striker" could walk through the competition at the UFC..Luckily they gave him a chance to show everyone. Go rent UFC 7 and watch his top student Ryan Parker Get thrown and Choked out in the first round by a judoka name Remco Pardoe.
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