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ESA-Shotokan
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:20 am    Post subject: Gumshields Reply with quote

One thing that bothers me during hard kumite is ensuring my gum shield doesn't fly out?

What do you people do to combat this problem? If I kiai, it has to be with teeth together or else the gumshield will hit jodan before my fist does!!

Is a double sided gumshield better?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had a problem with this, just change your kiai for sparring (the only time we absolutely have to kiai during sparring is for gradings anyway)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sort of growl or shout in ur breath, u dont need to kiai.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:48 pm    Post subject: Kiai Reply with quote

Hmmm doesn't help a lot as my kiai tends to throw people off a lot, especially in freestyle, so I use it to that effect.

I'll have to work on something.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the mouthpiece well formed to your teeth?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject: Gumshield Reply with quote

tommarker wrote:
is the mouthpiece well formed to your teeth?


Yes. If I move about and the such, it will stay in, even with my mouth open but once I go into full attack mode, it will pop out about 50% of the time, so hence a distraction.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, maybe you ought to think about trying another sort.
I've had to get my dentist to make one for me, as gumshields that seemed to fit really well when I wasn't sparring just lost all their effectiveness when I was going full whack. They tended to pop out unless I kept my jaws claped shut together (which is not a good thing to have to do).
The one I've had made for me is great, and going to collect it was one of the few times in my life that I haven't utterly hated going to the dentists!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 7:02 pm    Post subject: Dentist Reply with quote

Yeah the dentist option may be the one to go for, despite it being £40!! Got to be worth a try.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing I do, is to heat it up in hot water. It gets weak and while it is still warm I put it in my mouth so it forms to my teeth.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: Gumshield Reply with quote

Yeah I did that with the hot water-thing but the gum shield still pops out. The one I bought had to be hot-water moulded to start.

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