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KM1
White Belt
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:50 am Post subject: Hapkido OR Jiu Jitsu |
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| I am currently training in Krav Maga and i want to start another martial art to go along with it. I am stuck between Hapkido and Jiu Jitsu. They both look good to me but i would rather take the one that can be most applied to real life situations and ACTUALLY works. Hapkido or Jiu Jitsu might not even be what im looking for but they sound good to me. I like the idea of knowing how to twist and break and grab and through etc.. and If anyone has any suggestions on which one is better and actually works etc.. and which one would be a good combination to learn while also learning Krav Maga please post a message. thanks |
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KM1
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| If there are any other martial arts that anyone thinks i should look into accept for Hapkido or Jiu Jitsu please feel free to tell me about them so i can take a look and see what they are about ... thank again |
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Pacificshore
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Mar 2002
Posts: 1698
Location: West Coast
Styles: Chinese Kenpo/Kara-Ho Kempo
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:31 am Post subject: |
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KM1:
Well both styles will give you what you want in terms of joint locks and throws. Aiki-jujitsu or Judo may be others that you may want to checkout as well.  |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Look at top ranked fighters...IMO Jiu Jitsu has proven it's self alot more than Hapkido. |
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Kensai
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Joined: 05 Jul 2002
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Location: Britain
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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"Look at top ranked fighters" Do you know the reason why the are top ranked?
Well, mainly because they train full time. It does not matter what style you do, as long as you love it and you train hard in it.
Proven itself? To whom? To those fighters, yes indeed it has. But to KM1, maybe, maybe not.
If you want my honest opinion, go to the gym/dojangs. See for yourself what YOU think YOU can use.
On purely techniqes, they are both pretty good. Jiujutsu (brazilian) specialises on ground work. Hapkido does'nt really specialise, but it is very very board.
Just IMHO ofcourse. |
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KM1
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Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I am not only looking for joint locks and throwing etc etc.. but i would also like to learn specific targeted punches and kicks that do the maximum amount of damage as well as weapon defences from knives, guns, sticks etc...I know Krav Maga teaches all that but i would also like to learn othere methods as well.. sorry if im annoying anyone but i just want to cross train between Krav Maga and another style and i don't want to pick the wrong one.. any info or links to sites that have info will be cool.. thanks a lot guys.. i appreciate it |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Kensai wrote: |
"Look at top ranked fighters" Do you know the reason why the are top ranked?
Well, mainly because they train full time. It does not matter what style you do, as long as you love it and you train hard in it.
Proven itself? To whom? To those fighters, yes indeed it has. But to KM1, maybe, maybe not.
If you want my honest opinion, go to the gym/dojangs. See for yourself what YOU think YOU can use.
On purely techniqes, they are both pretty good. Jiujutsu (brazilian) specialises on ground work. Hapkido does'nt really specialise, but it is very very board.
Just IMHO ofcourse. |
ok then Can you give me one example of 1 Succesful fighter using Hapkido in MMA Today?
yes it has proven it to them, but when you see person after person after person succed with a certain stlye can you argue that it is proabably pretty effective? no.
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Pacificshore
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Mar 2002
Posts: 1698
Location: West Coast
Styles: Chinese Kenpo/Kara-Ho Kempo
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Well if looking for other forms of striking styles, there's the Kenpo/Kempo systems that use their strikes to specific parts of the body to cause a certain autonomic response. For example in American Kenpo, they have what they call their "minor" and "major" strikes. A finger poke to the eye to cause the head to go back and the hands up to the face, thus exposing numerous larger targets, ie. throat, sternum, etc.
Same principles will apply to other forms of Kenpo/Kempo. They also work on defenses against kives, guns, and clubs, just like many other systems. Do they have joint locks and throws, I'd say yes, but not to the extent as some of the other styles. Do they have a ground game, generally not since they focus on standing defense. But I'm sure with all the cross training going on these days it isn't difficult to make yourself a "well rounded" martial artist. It'll just depend on you and how much time you have to dedicate to your training.  |
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jiu-jitsu fighter
Brown Belt
Joined: 02 Jan 2003
Posts: 606
Styles: praying mantis, ninjutsu, BJJ,Blauer
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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bjj wouldn't interfere with your km training
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Yes I belive BJJ is a good complimentery art to KM, There is groundfighting in KM but if you want to go into it further that would be the way to go.
Nice to see a fellow KM guy on the board. |
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