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BKJ1216
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 Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 10:46 pm Post subject: Has anyone harnessed there ki? |
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| Okay I still cannot do this. It says I should feel tingling when I start to focus on it. But I feel nothing. Can someone who has done it give me some pointers. |
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Kensai
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Well.......
I dont think I have ever harnessed Ki. However sometimes, it really does feel different. Usually my Aikido, although flowing it still "hard" and not soft as it should be. Copying the movements of Aikido, Tai Chi or Ba Gua is not difficult to do. However getting the right feeling is years worth of mat time and hard work.
However on the odd occasion, usually when I am not thinking about Aikido or my Ki, it usually works. What I mean by that is that I can drop people that I would not be able to drop normally with just my physical strength. Its basically a lightness of touch that seems to do the job that my whole body working physically could not do. |
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JerryLove
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 11:17 am Post subject: |
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I have. I've done no-touch healing work; I've done no-touch and touch combative manipulation, etc.
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BKJ1216
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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I mean like at the point of where they say it's suposed to be tingling. I don't feel tingling I feel preasure, and then the thing I'm reading tells me to visulize it moving up into my hand I do and my hand literally becomes dead cold.
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JerryLove
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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umm.. everything I mentioned is well past the point of feeling your own energy.
Howerver, "cold" is a legetimate feeling for qi. "tingling" is a different one.
Ways one can percieve energy (afected both by the energy of the person, and by the person percieving it)
Hot
Cold
Electrical (pulsing)
Electrical (tingling)
Pressure (like puffs of air)
Calm (like the effect of a hot bath without the heat)
Or any combination of the above.
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BKJ1216
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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So you mean I might have felt the energY?
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JerryLove
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Quite possibly. If you are reliably getting a sensation from a mental activity, you are either convincing yourself you feel it (less likely since you are not feeling what you expect) or yes, you are feeling the effect of energy.
You may indeed be feeling it, just as cold rather than tingling.
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BKJ1216
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well should the feeling change from the stomach(tan tien, I think that's where the ki is) to the hand. When I'm focuing on the tan tien I feel a slight bit of preasure. But when I focus on it moving to my hand my hand just gets cold.
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JerryLove
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Yes, it certanly can. Usually, the state of your energy effects how it feels. People who work with it a lot are not generally cold (Yin).
You may also be pulling rather than pushing, or any of a hundred other reasons for why you are feeling something different. If you were nearby, I would recommend coming in so I can see; or actually coming to our schools Qigong workshop.
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BKJ1216
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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^ where did you learn all this stuff?
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