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Zaknafein
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2002 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just wondering what you guys think a great man or woman should be like. What kind personality would such an individual have?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2002 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kindness

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2002 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, the ability to adapt. And the ability to see certain perspectives on a variety of different issues, to understand others and their positions without having to agree with them.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2002 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think here there could be a large variation in the ways people judge greatness.
Many people that satisfy the criteria of "greatness" may be devoid of human spirit. They may be characterised by their aloofness. They may be arrogant. They may just be a**holes (Many great people are/were).
But the guy down the street who showed you how to ride a bike, or showed you the magic of a certain author may not have ever done a "great" thing in his life. But the legacy he has left you is far more profound than any that a scientist or a politician, no matter how great they may be, could ever leave you.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2002 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think "greatness" is where most of your energy is focused on people other than yourself.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2002 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I think a great man or woman should have the ability of something good which makes them a great person like some people that posted said

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A great person does little things with extraordinary kind and grace.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2002 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A great man or woman who can face adversity and hardship, and still forgive those who have wronged them.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2002 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So by these definitions, is a person such as Einstein or Mozart a "great man"?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2002 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I would guess in the loosest and most broad sense of 'greatness', I would say that somebody is great if they are able to achieve, attain, accomplish, or take on an attitude which is somewhat uncommon and out of the ordinary, in which others would look upon in a positive light or see them as having made a positive contribution to a section of society. For example, in our eyes Osama Bin Laden will never be great and he'll simply be a demonic b@stard (of which I am surprised that they haven't made an Osama dummy version yet to be put in dojos so that we can kick the crap out of him with our turning kick drills or whatever) b/c although he achieved something extraordinary we will never see it in a positive light, whereas in the eyes of his supporters he will be 'great'. And of course, those classical music fans will always see Mozart as a 'great' man. So in a way it's in the eye of the beholder but I think there is a universal concept of 'positive contribution to a certain genre or area of life'.

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