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hobbitbob
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Joined: 15 Jun 2002
Posts: 545
Location: Denver
Styles: 3d dan Shotokan, 2d dan Wado Ryu, 1st dan Taekwondo, 1st dan Aikido

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2002 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the first place I trained, a Wado-Kai dojo, we were told that uwagi sleeves were to come to just above our wrists, and Zubon legs to just above the ankles. At my second school, 10 ys later, in Germany, (Shukokai ****o-ryu), we weent given specific directions about sleeve/leg length. In Seattle I did Shotkan and dabbled in Hayashi-Ha ****o-ryu, the standards for sleeve, leg length were as at my first dojo. I think it may be individual instructor's choice. I personally find the slightly shorter length more comfortable, but that may be bacause its what I "grew up" with.
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RF_Brown
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Joined: 30 Jul 2002
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Location: DFW

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am ex- I.T.F. The one thing that you find the hardest in transferring to another style, or at least it was for me, is to shed the Sine-Wave movement on every technique. As hard as it was for me to learn to do it, it was even harder to learn not to do it! You might check out any school associated with the ITA in your area, I think they do the Sine Wave also, although I am not sure.
When I first moved to the North Dallas area, I did not find any ITF schools, but did find an ITA school. I never got around to checking them out, as I found a Wado-Ryu school that I was really impressed with.
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KickChick
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Joined: 02 Aug 2001
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know exactly what you mean RF. Our school practices the ITF forms however we never really concentrated on the sine wave movements per se .... (we were members of USTA)
Now ( last month ) became members of the ITU ( http://www.taekwondo.to/ ) ... and viewing their forms you can see the sine wave movements. We now are trying to incorporate this movement in all our forms and yes it is very diificult to learn ...

Please RF stop by the Introductions Forum and introduce yourself to us all!
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Radok
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Joined: 23 Apr 2002
Posts: 601
Location: Florida
Styles: Okinawan Shorin-ryu Karate-do

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2002-07-24 16:04, shaolinprincess wrote:
Hey, in my Karate class our pants fit us to the ground. We also do full contact sparring. It's great. But once in a while we do a points sparring competiotion. It is a Shorin Ryu style. Wado Ryu would also be a good Karate choice.



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it is your best choice!!

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ckdstudent
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Joined: 09 May 2002
Posts: 491
Location: Surrey, England
Styles: Choi Kwang Do

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am ex- I.T.F. The one thing that you find the hardest in transferring to another style, or at least it was for me, is to shed the Sine-Wave movement on every technique. As hard as it was for me to learn to do it, it was even harder to learn not to do it!


The sine wave movement was one of the best things to happen to TKD, lending massive increases in power to techniques via biomechanical principles. Why do you have to lose it?

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RF_Brown
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Joined: 30 Jul 2002
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Location: DFW

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2002-07-31 20:16, ckdstudent wrote:
The sine wave movement was one of the best things to happen to TKD, lending massive increases in power to techniques via biomechanical principles. Why do you have to lose it?



Well, I am not a Black Belt, so when I enroll in a school, I pretty much do as I am instructed and when in Rome, do as the Romans do, and when in Japanese Karate, do as they do in Japanese Karate. Those outside of the ITF tradition may and I emphazise the word MAY, find the Sine Wave as too choppy and too telegraphic. On the other hand though if you watch someone like Fabian Nunez, ITF 6th Dan out of Odessa TX and former Lightweight Kickboxing Champion do it, then you will see that on his level anyway, it is neither choppy or telegraphic, but just pure explosive. Not too many instructors in the WTF teach it though or have picked up on it. Seems to be an ITF thing. Some organizations that have sprung up from the ITF may also practice it, but I am far from being an expert on the subject.
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El Guerrero Loco
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wats the sine wave?


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RF_Brown
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El Guerrero Loco,

Here are a couple of URLs that have explanations.

http://www.saskgtf.com/theory.html

http://www.taekwondo.freeserve.co.uk/technical_explanations/explanation_of_sine_wave.htm
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koreantiger81
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Joined: 13 Dec 2001
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2002 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the feedback guys! But could somebody tell me if you do full contact or semi-contact sparring? and do you do continuous or point sparring?
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