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DWx
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JGarner890 wrote:
Well, first off, I said that the only way I would hit a woman, was if she has a weapon; knife, frying pan. That is really all I said, so I'm confused on how you get a man smaller than me mixed into that.

But since you're asking me if a 5'8", 275LB woman and a man smaller than me attacked me with a weapon (bc that's what I was stating in my original post), then no, I wouldn't treat it any differently.

If they were unarmed, then clearly I would treat them differently (as I said in my original post). The fat woman has no weapon, I would not hit her while she throws whatever at me. The smaller man has no weapon, I would defend myself properly.

That's my moral. I do not hit a woman, unless it threatens my life. Kinda like here in Afghanistan, I don't shoot unless my life or one of my brother's lives are being threatened. Too easy. l Hope that answers your question.

With respect JGarner890 I think you may be underestimating what kind of damage an unarmed women can still do. She might not have a knife but she could still throw a mean hook, take a swipe at your eyes, beat you to a pulp. You really would just stand there and take punishment from a women just because she is female?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it really unsettles me to see people dismissing female violence. It's really very insulting to the women. (though it doesn't help when the women in question don't manage to do any damage.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never said I would stand there. I just wouldn't hit a female. I would dodge the punches the best I could and possibly hold her down when/if given the chance.

With my 18yrs of MA experience, with fighting professionally in MMA, lol I know a female can hit hard, therefore I do not underestimate anything a female can do. So I believe the misunderstanding is elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a female, if I wanted to kill someone, I'd hardly need a knife or weapon to do it....

PS. please don't take that as a threat toward yourself or anyone else
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which organization do you fight in, JGarner?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a lot harder to kill some one with your bare hands than most people think. It's not like the movies.

I do not fight anymore. I officially retired in 2012 but haven't fought since 2009, when I enlisted in the Army.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me no not ever at all period.

Prisoners..... have rights as well.... "Me no not ever at all period."

Show respect to everyone is a primary rule (almost law) with me.

I can honestly say that it is this rule that has not had me in a position (of my own making) where I've had or felt the need to take a more direct approach with the other person......regardless of there sex!

Rateh wrote:
As a female, if I were to attack someone, I would hope the person would at least try to defend themselves.


In any dojo I have attended, my opponent is treated as an equal. This is the respectful and correct thing to do as far as I'm concerned.
Another rule in my life...fight the man (person) not the grade (belt)

I feel a desperate need to lighten the mood a little of my post.

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'First learn rule number one, Rule number 2, says learn rule number 1.'


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JGarner890 wrote:
I never said I would stand there. I just wouldn't hit a female. I would dodge the punches the best I could and possibly hold her down when/if given the chance.

With my 18yrs of MA experience, with fighting professionally in MMA, lol I know a female can hit hard, therefore I do not underestimate anything a female can do. So I believe the misunderstanding is elsewhere.

May I ask why you wouldn't hit a female? Is it on moral reasons?

Going into a fight with someone hell bent on hurting you and not wanting to defend yourself doesn't seem right to me. No matter whether they are male or female. There's only so many punches you can try to dodge.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again...

I'm gonna knock the person out before the person can knock me out; no matter if that person's female or not!!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="JGarner890"]It is a lot harder to kill some one with your bare hands than most people think. It's not like the movies.

I do not fight anymore. I officially retired in 2012 but haven't fought since 2009, when I enlisted in the Army.[/quote]

I understand. I spent over a decade in the US military, both active duty Marines and Army Reserves so I know how that gets in the way. What organization did you used to fight in?
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