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SevenStar
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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| So do you think he would have done just as well with out any Hung Gar training? |
honestly? yeah. Why? because he already had striking training, and he said that he used his FMA mentality to apply to his fighting. He's trained that FMA for over 20 years, so he could definitely strike without his kung fu. Now, had he not had any other striking training, then my answer would be no, he couldn't do it without kung fu. |
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
Posts: 1299
Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu Karate do; Kung Fu.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, i guess the only point prove here is, again, That the fighting style helps a lot but at the end, its up to the Man. |
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kotegashiNeo
Blue Belt
Joined: 23 Dec 2003
Posts: 342
Location: Barrie Ontario Canada
Styles: goju/ Aikido
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Oh Kung fu practioners so sensitive !!
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Drunken Monkey
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Posts: 3559
Location: bar italia
Styles: white chocolate profiteroles and natas....
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why are people so hung up on styles winning things like this, or anything else similar for that matter?
saying that a certain style wins a fight is almost like saying that the man wasn't part of the achievement.
my sifu always says,
at the end of the day, if you are in a fight, i don't care if you are doing wing chun or not, i want YOU to win.
if YOU win, then i've done my job.
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SevenStar
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| kotegashiNeo wrote: |
| Oh Kung fu practioners so sensitive !! |
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jeffrogers
Blue Belt
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Posts: 322
Location: Camp LaGuardia, Uijongbu, South Korea
Styles: BJJ, Hakutsuru (White Crane Karate), Shaolin Kenpo
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style or technique does have a play in this. I don't think Royce would win against Shamrock now like he did in the first UFC. Do to lack of knowlege of the ground work by fighters. But now knowledge is out there and so is hte counters and training in and adpation ot compete against grapplers is out there. This is one reason why I think the clinch is going start being more a huge part in take downs. Do to people getting reallly good at sprawling on shoots.
It is both the invidual and the style or training methods.
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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I just think that many MA's have a lot to offer, but it takes a particular fighter to show the effectiveness and to know how to use it. This is good for Hung Gar to have a good fighter out there winning fights. Maybe now people will realize the all MA's have something to offer.
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SevenStar
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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| If a particular fighter can use it, that doesn't mean that you can...It's great exposure, but if he can do it, then others should be able to also. Also, this is actually an old fight...it's from UFC VII. The reason why it came to light just now is because we just found out that that guy posts on another MA forum that we frequent. |
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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No it means you can't. I may be able to.
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SevenStar
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| exactly, MAY be able to. Everybody MAY be able to... |
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on the post.
