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SaiFightsMS
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In you club/school do groups of different ages learn different katas? Like maybe the kids learn introductory katas not taught to adults? Do older (45+) students learn katas less stressfull on the body than the younger adults learn? Is the cirriculum in any way tailored for different age groups?
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Tobias_Reece
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 8:50 am Post subject: |
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In my school all students learn the same katas up to advanced level (heian, tekki shodan, bassai-dai)
Godan proves to be the most difficult basic kata for adults - it is the first kata to contain a jump.
C ya
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Jack
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 9:56 am Post subject: |
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At our School, those under the age of 10 have the option of taking some simpler 4 or 8 step Patterns, along with 2 junior belts before they go for Yellow Belt and the first proper pattern. 
However, this is Tae Kwon Do, not Karate. :smile:
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Kenpo karate has some pretty advance katas. Each rank has about 1-2 katas average. I try to teach them to ALL students, but I do teach a limited program to younger students. As they get older they learn the katas required for each rank.
I personally will not promote any student under the age of 17 to black belt, so by that time...they will have all requirements. It really depends on the students comprehension level.
Hasta!!
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SaiFightsMS
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 10:48 am Post subject: |
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I find it interesting that Heian Godan is the most difficult kata for you students because of the jump Tobias. Maybe it is because we have never stressed the height of the jump in that kata.
Heian Yondan for some reason seems to be the point where our kids started having problems with good execution. So many of them can do well to the point of the first side kick than fall apart on the second one. We do have in place some very basic (almost pre-katas)katas more oriented to kids really reinforcing zenkutsu dachi. Katas even more basic than a taikokyu.
I have encountered (on-line) some schools who have classes oriented toward older adults. And they do the same basic katas but in the more advanced katas the cirriculum changes.
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Piastre
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Everyone does that same kata at our school, however the children's curriculum differs in that there may be less to learn (in terms of combinations etc) for a childrens belt than the equivalent adult rank.
Just on a slightly different note, how many people learn pinan (heian) shodan AFTER pinan nidan?
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Slider
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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 too many japanese styles here..but hey I am in the shotokan section anyway
*Runs out the door*
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username237
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2002 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| we all learn the same katas , no matter what our age |
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SaiFightsMS
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2002 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Piastre when I was in a shi-to ryu group we did it that way. When the group split and some of us relearned the Heians and went Shotokan we changed the order.
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Tobias_Reece
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2002 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Piastre
For us Shotokan practitioners, your Pinan Nidan comes before Pinan Shodan.
I think I'm saying this so ppl can understand, but I'll just check...
Heian Shodan contains a Otoshi-tettsui-uchi as the 3rd move, whilst Heian Nidan contains the Ude Soete/Haiwan Uke combinations.
I believe that this is the other way round for the Pinans.
Cya
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