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Nidan Melbourne
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:06 pm    Post subject: Interesting Kata/Forms Reply with quote

With Covid-19 taking the world hostage. And my sheer craziness with the dojo being closed, I’ve being training and home and looking at various kata/forms on YouTube.

With that, I happened to watch some of the Peter Urban USA Goju Kata. Which I found to be uhh highly interesting. As their forms were rather different to what I would normally expect to see.

They got me thinking, are there any forms/kata that you have learnt or seen from another style or another “version” of your style that you have seen?

For me it was from the aforementioned style and their interpretation of Suparinpei.
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Fat Cobra
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also interested to see the different Naihanchi kata from other forms. This is our first three, and most fundamental, kata (Shodan, Nidan, and Sandan), so I am always curious to see how different it is across the styles.
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bushido_man96
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Stuart Anslow's Encyclopedia of Taekwon-do Patterns, he has the Global TKD Federation (GTF) forms listed, and some of those are pretty crazy long, with lots of different kicking combinations. They do intrigue me, but I honestly don't think I could do them well.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I learned the KishimotoDi versions of Naihanchi, Passai, and Kusanku, which are definitely recognizable but quite different from the versions I learned in Chibana-lineage Shorin-Ryu. I also had a sort of reverse situation, where I learned weirdly modified versions of Wansu, Sanchin, Tensho, and Seiyunchin, and then later adjusted them to be more like the versions I had seen in other styles that I preferred.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wastelander wrote:
I learned the KishimotoDi versions of Naihanchi, Passai, and Kusanku, which are definitely recognizable but quite different from the versions I learned in Chibana-lineage Shorin-Ryu. I also had a sort of reverse situation, where I learned weirdly modified versions of Wansu, Sanchin, Tensho, and Seiyunchin, and then later adjusted them to be more like the versions I had seen in other styles that I preferred.


I've actually considered attempting this in the past. Right now, with thoughts of testing in the sometime future, I don't want to take on any new curriculum, but once that's passed, I've thought of toying with this idea.
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LastKing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try these: Pinan Nidan, though not like you will ever have seen it.

https://youtu.be/pDt3UfyJcmM
https://youtu.be/cOFHE_5xou8
https://youtu.be/lNOguRl4UjM
https://youtu.be/jnwl7JIVjLU
https://youtu.be/aW-NhGH1cNY
https://youtu.be/vHEXFTpWRoc
https://youtu.be/1rRPeYoNz6c

It's our version of Pinan Nidan, taught that way to my old sensai, in a rural club in the late 70s. He's kept it going like this in our organisation, and, after I took the club over, had to keep teaching it that way as it's what the members knew. I like it, I have to say. It's a nice kata, though it's not Pinan Nidan, nor any other kata I've ever seen.

I'm doing the videos for the kids in the club so they can learn it during the lockdown.
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