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Eric7_27
Yellow Belt
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 42
Location: Dallas, TX
Styles: Taekwondo, Aikido
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: Is "bouncing" while sparring wrong? |
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Whenever I spar or do my kicks, forms, etc., I have a tendancy to "bounce" up and down. I've done this ever since when I was a kid and did a little boxing. My instructors always tell me not to, and that it wastes energy, or it might make me telegraph. If it's wrong- how come I see some of the best fighters do it?? What do you guys think?
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ShotokanKid
Black Belt
Joined: 14 Nov 2004
Posts: 1855
Location: Southern California
Styles: BJJ, Shotokan Karate, Judo, FMA/Inosanto Kali
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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It is true that it wastes energy- I found that out after about 25 minutes of sparring.
However, bouncing can be good, it keeps you moving, and keeps your opponent from knowing when you are going to attack. For example, if you are motionless until the attack, you need to be fast. But if you are always moving, they aren't sure when you will attack because you're moving.
Hopefully, there was logic in that.
Good luck. _________________ "What we do in life, echoes in eternity."
"We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men." |
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Moving from your front foot to back foot isn't such a big deal... it's the going up and down that's the problem. It's really easy to catch someone while their center is high with a sweep or throw. _________________ There's no place like 127.0.0.1 |
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cross
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Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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I find it alot harder to maintain balance and move around efficiently while boucing. Movement is important, but the boucing isnt necissary. |
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ShotokanKid
Black Belt
Joined: 14 Nov 2004
Posts: 1855
Location: Southern California
Styles: BJJ, Shotokan Karate, Judo, FMA/Inosanto Kali
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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lordtariel wrote: |
Moving from your front foot to back foot isn't such a big deal... it's the going up and down that's the problem. It's really easy to catch someone while their center is high with a sweep or throw. |
good point, make sure it's not too much up and down and try to shift in and out. A little bit of up and down is no big deal, just don't come up too high. _________________ "What we do in life, echoes in eternity."
"We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men." |
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Shotokan-kez
Black Belt
Joined: 13 May 2006
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Location: Manchester uk
Styles: shotokan karate
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:08 am Post subject: |
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I tend not to bounce. But like others have said it's not such a bad thing, because it can keep you moving and so confuse your opponent. I also agree that it can waste energy and be easily caught out with a sweep or something. I would advise maybe just trying to minimise it. _________________ Walk away and your always a winner. www.shikata-shotokan.co.uk |
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Elky
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Joined: 24 Nov 2006
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Styles: Shotokan Karate
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:36 am Post subject: |
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I personally don't like bouncing but then if you watch all the world champion WKF karateka (eg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxnfQi4GEKk), they bounce all over the shop and they probably know much more about it than I do. On the other hand, the top kyokushinkai karateka bounce much less (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DAepRbZC6E). Bouncing seems to be about vying for psychological advantage and position, which only seems to work if your opponent is willing to play the game too. |
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Shotokan-kez
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Joined: 13 May 2006
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Location: Manchester uk
Styles: shotokan karate
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Those two fights were good, i tended not to notice the main thing, the 'bouncing', because i was enjoying it so much . I noticed that in the first fight one of the guys was brought down a lot, i'm pressuming that was because he was unstable on his feet because of the 'bouncing'?
The second fight looked a bit like how we do it but with just a little bit more moving around. The thing that got to me about the second fight was that they wasn't wearing protection and they were really battering each other! _________________ Walk away and your always a winner. www.shikata-shotokan.co.uk |
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
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Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Excessive bouncing can waste energy.(Unless you're Tigger) You shouldn't be dancing all over the place when you're fighting. What you do need to be is on the balls of your feet with a little bit of spring. _________________ There's no place like 127.0.0.1 |
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cross
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Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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I personally don't like bouncing but then if you watch all the world champion WKF karateka (eg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxnfQi4GEKk), they bounce all over the shop and they probably know much more about it than I do. |
If you look at the length of these guys stances id say they are bouncing to compensate for their lack of mobility. |
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