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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| Rainbow_Warrior wrote: |
Maybe try to lead people to the floor is part of the animal intinct.
I am very sad with the global politics about self defense....Decent people have always to think that probably can go to jail because killing an agressive bum |
Yeah, it is important to know when to stop.
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glockmeister
Green Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 490
Location: Pa
Styles: Haganah, Krav Maga, JKD, Kickboxing,BJJ, Judo
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| You know, it seems to me that in any fight, some will try to get you on the ground, whether they know how to wrestle or not. It is the driving force that one thinks that they can dominate someone completely if they can get them down, and set on their chest. |
That is because for the most part, when a person is on the ground, they are the most vulnerable. It is much easier for a man to move on two feet than on the ground beause he is a two-legged createure who moves upright. Fighting and defending yourself on the ground is a skill that must be learned and practiced over time.
In our natural state, our ability to move on the ground is severely limited, therefore ground fighting skills and skills that teach us to move well from the ground are important skills to know in self defense. Why? because the bad guys understand the above quote and more often and not, will be trying to put you ina position that they belive will limit your movement and put them in a superior position.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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KamasandSais
Blue Belt
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 309
Styles: karate tae kwon do and jujitsu
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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One Word...Heckyes
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| Yes, thanks a lot guys. Hey, kamasandsais, that was something that you knew that I did not!! |
<---blackmail hahahahhaha bushido |
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baronbvp
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Feb 2005
Posts: 1151
Location: Berlin, Germany
Styles: Muay Thai, boxing, JKD/MMA, Shorin Ryu, military combat arts, fencing, archery
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Did you see the looks on the faces of the early UFC competitors when Royce Gracie took them down? Surprise, fear, anger, and, as Scooby says, "ruh roh!" Those guys were tough fighters, but not on the ground. Most people including muggers are not comfortable on the ground. If you are, it can only be better than not.
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cathal
Black Belt
Joined: 20 Nov 2003
Posts: 2237
Location: Atlantic Canada
Styles: Shotokan (Ryukyu Kobujutsu, Iaido)
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I tend to agree that is would be useful but only to an extent. If someone grabs you, my opinion is to get out of that situation as quickly as possible. You may not be well served by going to the ground right away. Especially if your attacker isn't alone.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| cathal wrote: |
| I tend to agree that is would be useful but only to an extent. If someone grabs you, my opinion is to get out of that situation as quickly as possible. You may not be well served by going to the ground right away. Especially if your attacker isn't alone. |
Good point. However, defending against a grab would be different than defending against a tackle or a takedown.
If I get grabbed, I would try to punch away, I think. If I got tackled, then it would be time to roll.
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Especially if your attacker isn't alone. |
Good point there... You could be in total control of your opponent, but his buddy could come up behind you and nail you in the head. I feel grappling is a tool to be used when it's appropriate.
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glockmeister
Green Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 490
Location: Pa
Styles: Haganah, Krav Maga, JKD, Kickboxing,BJJ, Judo
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[/quote] Good point there... You could be in total control of your opponent, but his buddy could come up behind you and nail you in the head.[/quote]
Good point, but the same could happen if you were traing punches standing or standing in the clinch.
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NightOwl
Black Belt
Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 1097
Location: Lost on the West Coast
Styles: Working on Judo and BJJ
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| lordtariel wrote: |
| cathal wrote: |
| Especially if your attacker isn't alone. |
Good point there... You could be in total control of your opponent, but his buddy could come up behind you and nail you in the head. I feel grappling is a tool to be used when it's appropriate. |
If there is more than one person, a little stand up grappling/take downs couldn't hurt, just as long as you don't try to wrestle them or get to the ground. Judo throws perhaps?
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