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KF Sensei
KF Sensei

Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 15453
Location: Houston, TX
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RW wrote:
sensei8 wrote:
I didn't know Karate needed a comeback. MMA didn't bother me in one iota whatsoever. My Student Body stayed strong, and many of my students were turned off by some of the pre-fight antics.

Many of my friends that own Karate dojo's weren't effected by the MMA surge of the past and present. Operating and owning a dojo requires skills beyond MA skills.

Karate dojo's that offer any ground fighting more than likely lost their Student Body to MMA schools for ground fighting training.

What's the general profile of your typical class attendant?

I've found out karate has made a niche with the following groups:

- Holdovers from the past, people who began training in the 80s or 90s, maybe early 2000s, these are the most serious students and the ones who truly care about the martial art aspect of karate

- kids: their parents take them to karate so they have some sort of after-school activity.

- more recent studies who see martial arts as a workout mainly, they tend to dislike sparring and they are not really interested in the nuances of technique.

To the bold type above...

Mine's a wide plethora due to my having been cross training for a very long time; all that you've mentioned above.

**Proof is on the floor!!!
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Yellow Belt
Yellow Belt

Joined: 08 Oct 2014
Posts: 61

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe alot of of MMA fighters/teams are thinking outside the box and looking into what TMA has to offer to expand the fighters tool set and think outside the norm. The fight the impressed me not too long ago was the
Match between Rose and Wei lei. No brutal trading of exchanges, just a nice clean kick set up to end it and leave with no damage. Rose accredited the kick to her TKD backgound.

With Karate - some MMA fighters have cross trained in styles such as Shotokan, or already had Karate backgrounds and have become champions at some point. Some of the head coaches of elite MMA teams have Ranks in TMA so I wouldnt doubt they throw in some TMA techniques with their overall fight strategy.

Karate still is a minority IMO, its pretty rare we get to see a new breakout fighter with a Karate background that actually uses techniques from the system.
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White Belt
White Belt

Joined: 02 Sep 2021
Posts: 17

Styles: Karate Shotokan, Judo

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an interesting topic, however, I can't compare with what it was like the 90s. It's true that karate classes are full of kids and their parents plus there are a bunch of people who have been training for ages. At university, hardly anyone trains anything, let alone fighting sports. They all go to the gym if anything at all. People talk about MMA and it's popular to say that traditional martial arts are ineffective compared to MMA so "it's not worth it" to train traditional martial arts. Which I find plain annoying, because people who say this are couch potatos and are good at neither MMA nor anything else, and secondly, they don't take into account that being effective in street fights might not be why someone trains.
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