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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:29 pm    Post subject: Is this a style of bojutsu Reply with quote

So holding a Bo, hands separated evenly, centered. Both hands have an overhand grip.

I believe I saw it in a Kung fu movie, though Iím not sure. They were blocking high, low, and also blocking and striking with the ends of the Bo. So the hands didnít move on the Bo, they maintained the overhand grips the whole time. It was very simple, but looked very interesting.

Does anyone know of any 2 person drills with the Bo uses this overhand grip of both hands?

Does anyone know of any styles in particular that are known for this?

My experience in kobudo is very limited, but I have yet to see anyone use a Bo like this.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The overhand grip, commonly known as the reverse grip, Gyaku Nigiri, is a very basic grip with any Bojitsu MA style, whereas they're quite a lot. Although, the overhand grip isn't the most chosen grip, which is the Hon Nigiri, which is the one hand up and one hand down. The overhand/reverse grip is very effective in blocking and striking. Therefore, both grips are utilized by any Bojitsu practitioner accordingly.

There's a 12-Step 2-Man Drill that we use right off the bat, no pun attended, of our students Bo training. We start our Kobudo training once a student has earned their 6th Kyu [Green Belt].

Both students use the overhead grip. Both students take turns being on the offense and defense, aka, attacker and defender. Stances are important in Kobudo, in which use the same as in Karate-do, and what is important is that the stances are effective by them being firm.

Here we go...

1> Upper Head Strike on the right from Heiko Dachi
2> Upper Head Strike on the left from Heiko Dachi
3> Downward Leg Strike on the right from Heiko Dachi
4> Downward Leg Strike on the left from Heiko Dachi
5> Downward Leg Strike on the right while stepping back with your left leg into Zenkutsu Dachi while also sliding your left hand back on the bo at the same time.
6> Upper Head Strike to the right from Zenkutsu Dachi
7> Downward Leg Strike to the left while stepping forward into Kokustu Dachi
8> Upper Head Strike to the left from Kokustu Dachi
9> Downward top of Head Strike from Kokustu Dachi
10> Downward Head Strike from Heiko Dachi
11> Downward Leg Strike on the right from Zenkutsu Dachi
12> Lower Middle Strike from Heiko Dachi

In the 2-Man Drill, one is the attacker and the other is the defender which means that one will Strike and the other will Block. In short, the attacker in attempting to strike the defender in different targets with the ends of his/her bo and the defender blocks each striking attempt with the end of his/her with the exception of the downward to of the head strike and lower middle attack which the defender blocks with the middle of his/her Bo.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And quality answers like that are the reason we all keep coming back to KF! Great post, Bob, great detail! Now I wish we'd had some bos to train with when you came down!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Sensei8!

I canít wait to try that drill. Are there any katas that specifically use gyaku nigiri? Iíve come up with my own basic ones just based off of the Taikyoku katas, but Iíd like to see what else is out there and Iím not having much luck with YouTube lol.

Iím sure Iíll get into the other grips eventually, but Iím having fun with this one for now

Thank you!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are there any katas that specifically use gyaku nigiri?

Yes.

Some Bo Kata that use the Gyaku Nigiri grip within said Bo Kata quite sparingly...for example...

>Sueyoshi no kon
>Soeishi no kon sho

These Bo Kata use Gyaku Nigiri throughout said Bo Kata...

>Heian Shodan - Yondan No Bo (4 Kata Set)
>Shihōrin
>Heian Sandan No Bo
>Kanazawa No Bo Sho
>Kanazawa No Bo Dai

These few Bo Kata's should whet your Bo Kata and Gyaku Nigiri interests. They're more, for sure, but this small list should suffice for now. Many Kata train mostly the Hon Nigiri grip.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bushido_man96 wrote:
And quality answers like that are the reason we all keep coming back to KF! Great post, Bob, great detail! Now I wish we'd had some bos to train with when you came down!

We both would've enjoyed that quite a lot. IF, God would allow us to train once again, the Bo would be the main fare.



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
bushido_man96 wrote:
And quality answers like that are the reason we all keep coming back to KF! Great post, Bob, great detail! Now I wish we'd had some bos to train with when you came down!

We both would've enjoyed that quite a lot. IF, God would allow us to train once again, the Bo would be the main fare.


That would be awesome!
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