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Blade13
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2001 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does everyone think about
Ko To Su Ha Shi To Ryu? Im not sure if thats spelled right. Ive never heard of it. Im going to watch a class there tomorrow night to see if I like how the sensei teaches. One night isnt enough to be sure if I like the style though. Please help me. Thanks
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thaiboxerken
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2001 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.. here is my own criteria for whether or not I will train a martial art. Do they punch in horse-stance and pull their non-punching hand to the hip? If they do, it's a minus to the score. Do they do Kata? If they do, another minus. If they do kata, do they teach application for each and every movement of the Kata? If they don't teach the application, I definitely won't attend the classes.
If they break boards for test, it's a minus.
If they charge extra test fees that are more than just a charge for the actual cost of the new belt, that's a minus.
If they spar for 3 minutes and a total of less than 10 strikes are thrown by both parties, that's a minus.
If there are kids less than 16 years old running around with black-belts, that's a minus.
If the instructor is caucasion, but talks with a japanese accent, I won't train there.

These are just my own criteria for judging a school/ dojo. Take em or leave em.


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ChangWuJi
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Explain why or how would an instructor who is caucasian talk with a Japanese accent?
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Karateka
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Already by your spelling I know that the Martial Art is Karate. Let me tell you my criteria:
1) Is there Kata, plus
2) Is there Kumite, plus
3) Is there tournaments sanctioned by some sort of authority, plus
4) Is the teacher a good one, plus
5) Do they go over application and self defence on the street? plus

This is not a crack at you Thai, it is you way of writing it down was good so I decided to use it. Thaiboxerken's ideas are from a kickboxer, mine are from a Karateka's point of view. Although I have never heard of the style of Kotosuha Shi-to Ryu, I know about Shi-to Ryu because it is my style.

The point is, don't listen to what other people tell you in the end. It is YOUR decision.

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bustr
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2001 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Characteristics of good schools are:

A sense of comraderie among students

Patience on the part of the instructor

Full Contact sparring (continuous, not point style)

At least some basic grappling and Ne-Waza (grounfighting)

Sparring with weapons in the advanced stages




Things to look out for:

Posturing and shouting on the part of the instructor

Egotistical students

In-Fighting among students

Emphasis on no-contact point competition

No Kata interpretation beyond the obvious.

Abuse of students. Some pain is necessary and accidents do happen but intentionally breaking an arm or knocking out teeth only instills fear and dislike.

Over-emphasis on humility (An example would be some aikido classes where students prostrate themselves before the instructor as if he were a god). Humble and submissive is the last thing you wanna be if attacked.
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[ This Message was edited by: bustr on 2001-09-23 07:19 ]
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moobrack
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2001 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

listebn to your heart,.You will know if you like the way the sensei teaches.Believe me ,you will feel it.

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GoldDragon
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2001 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Said MooBrack

Go by your instincts.
If you feel a weird vibe just step back but if you have the "GO" then go for it



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2001 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget to let us know whether you decided to start training in Ko To Su Ha Shi To Ryu Blade.
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Blade13
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2001 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice. I am meeting the sensei on tuesday night to ask these questions. I went to watch one of his classes, but he was too busy to talk to me that night. For some reason, he is freaking out and wanting me to join this class. He said that because of my prior training, that I will probably be in the advanced class in about 2 months. Does this sound like a McDojo?
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Iron Arahat
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2001 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't necessarily mean McDojo. If moving to the advanced class means spending money then yes.

There is one school that I know of that after about a month it will invite you to go to their "sparing class" and this is an additional fee.

They also have "clubs" within the club.

Alot of the basics of martial ars are similar, and are often not too difficult for an experienced person to pick up.
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