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Tobias_Reece
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 9:41 am Post subject: |
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For all you karate practitioners out there
I'm just interested to what people have to say about the kata Jitte (AKA Jutte).
I know several different theories behind this, and how it got its name, but I am interested in what other people know abut this kata.
I post what I know later, just to see what other people think.
C ya
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Karateka
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 10:01 am Post subject: |
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I thought its name meant ten-hands
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Tobias_Reece
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Karate
Yes, I thought that the name does mean 10 tens, Ju - ten, te - hand.
This could mean that the practitioner has the strength of 10 men.
However, there is another theory.
A jutte was a japanese weapon, very similar to a sai, but with one prong and a bit shorter. Maybe the kata was named after this weapon, as the floor pattern in very simlar to the shape of the weapon.
Anyone else have any ideas?
C ya
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Gloi
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Joined: 15 Nov 2001
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Location: England
Styles: 1st dan Shotokan, 1st kup TKD
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 11:19 am Post subject: |
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I had a video of Elmar Schmeisser doing jitte as a bo kata which I downloaded from his site a while ago. Unfortunately I cannot find the address for it at the moment but it looked pretty convincing when he did it like that. |
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Tobias_Reece
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Gloi
Yes, there is a part in Jitte which involves the techniques called "Morote-jo(/bo)-dori". (double staff catch)
I also experimented with the Sai. It worked quite well, especially the staff grabbing techniques.
Keep on posting
C ya
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ronryu
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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I am familar with the ten hands translation . I am also told that it could mean temple hands if it is in line with the other 2 sister kata jion temple sound , ji'in temple ground . These 3 kata all start with the right fist in the left palm as a monk greeting . (chinese ?) . hope this helps these 3 kata are some of my favorite .
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Joecooke007
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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all of your input is very interesting. As a Goju Ryu practitioner I have not learned these katas.
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SaiFightsMS
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Gloi
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2002 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Sai, that's not the one I meant, it was a series of 3 video clips on Elmar's own site that I was thinking of although I think both those and the article you referred to are from the same time when it was being discussed on the Shotokan yahoo group. We've done the part in class with the catch against a bo attack but not the whole kata as a bo kata like Elmar demonstrated it. |
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moobrack
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2002 6:53 am Post subject: |
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ddnt jitte come from 3 kata which originated in a temple, (i forget the place) the three kata are Ji'in Jitte and Jion if I am correct.
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