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muaythaidm
Orange Belt
Joined: 20 Aug 2001
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I am thinking of taking jiu-jitsu but someone I know said that it is only usefull in the streets if the opponent is wearing heaving clothes. Is this true?  |
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Taikudo-ka
Green Belt
Joined: 20 Mar 2002
Posts: 450
Location: Australia
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Well I know in Ju-Jutsu you can "knock the opponent around" a bit with some techniques, so it doesn't just rely on grabbing a good strong gi.
Judo maybe more so, as it's more of a sport, and I know they do wear a VERY heavy gi, with special "grab" pads. (As with Aikido).
I've heard most holds can be adapted to some sort of body grab anyway, so both would still be cool to know.
I've seen ju-jutsu guys practising in plain clothes. I did a ninjitsu class in my dim past, which was basically just jujutsu. All plain clothes - I wore a light T shirt and track pants, and the instructor had no problem getting me on the ground in a choker hold every time... |
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Bon
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Aug 2001
Posts: 1047
Location: Australia
Styles: BJJ, Kickboxing
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 12:26 am Post subject: |
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No, jiu jitsu can be used on a naked opponent if you wish.
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bjjbarbie
Yellow Belt
Joined: 06 Apr 2002
Posts: 44
Location: Australia!!!....w00t!
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the reason for the gi's is to be able to grip but also coz they wont hurt the opposition.......!!
so in a way ont he strret is much better coz a t-shirt will not only choke.....but lacerate aswell!!......if anyone here does bjj and has grappled with a bonds like singlet and been choked they will know what im talking about!! |
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YODA
Black Belt
Joined: 25 Jan 2002
Posts: 1033
Location: England (int'north west)
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Depends on what you call Jiu Jitsu.
The combative, athletic, applicable JJ people - i.e. BJJ, have no problem without the Gi. Most BJJ people I have traned with split their art into 3 sections...
- Sport BJJ
- Sport Vale Tudo
- Street
Only ONE of those involves wearing a Gi / Kimono.
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striking_cobra
Orange Belt
Joined: 21 Apr 2002
Posts: 187
Location: United States
Styles: kung ling, kung fu
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 8:01 am Post subject: |
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we train gi or no gi (in which case some guys have grappling shirts), (we do mostly gi)
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ZeRo
Black Belt
Joined: 03 Apr 2002
Posts: 2571
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| no you dont have to wear a gi. all the throws i know i have been taught to do when the opponent isnt wearing a gi. but basically instead of grabing the pads on the front you put your arm round there waist. if you try to grab a t-shirt and throw it rips. all the grappling things alwell. |
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three60roundhouse
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 10 Jan 2002
Posts: 891
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| I only train with the gi (so far - just started) and on an opponent with a kimono or without, a rear naked choke is a rear naked choke, a knee bar is a knee bar, the mount is the mount - the game is just a little different, and many jiu-jitsu schools offer you to train in both gi and no-gi. |
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Bon
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Aug 2001
Posts: 1047
Location: Australia
Styles: BJJ, Kickboxing
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On 2002-05-02 05:35, bjjbarbie wrote:
if anyone here does bjj and has grappled with a bonds like singlet and been choked they will know what im talking about!!
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Sure, I'll grapple with you in a singlet =d)
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G95champ
Black Belt
Joined: 29 Mar 2002
Posts: 3116
Location: Gilbert WV, USA
Styles: Shotokan Karate (FSKA)
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| Jujitsu IMO is not the greatest for the streets only because it may be more than one on one. However if its one on one and you are going to the ground and the man who knows more jujitsu will be much better off. |
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