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MasterPain
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Posts: 1949
Location: Parts Unknown
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Backyard Kali, Satsui no Hadou
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If you enjoy doing karate together, I wouldn't change a thing. In the long run, memories with his dad will be worth more than wrestling medals. Plus karate and wrestling will make him a more well rounded martial artist than strictly grappling.
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Makaala4
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Joined: 16 Apr 2012
Posts: 8
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| *** My bad guys...my first post here, and I mess up on the title. Corrected the title, I did mean Judo or BJJ.*** |
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MasterPain
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Posts: 1949
Location: Parts Unknown
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Backyard Kali, Satsui no Hadou
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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The only way to not make mistakes is to not do anything.
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Makaala4
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Joined: 16 Apr 2012
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| MasterPain: I know where you are coming from. I love training w/my son. My 7 y/o daughter also trains w/us. Its the best feeling as a father to be training w/them. My son has always been one of the smaller guys in his class (thanks to me and my Filipino blood). He probably would have been of average size if we had stayed in Hawaii w/all the Asians there, but here in the mainland he has always been the smallest guy in class, and I think his success in wrestling (competing against kids his own size and weight) has boosted his confidence. |
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JusticeZero
Black Belt
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 2166
Location: AK
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:51 am Post subject: |
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I dunno, if it was me i'd go with a striking art, since it sounds as though the goal is to improve his wrestling.
Other grappling arts would improve his ability to grapple and give an awesome background, but a lot of those skills would involve doing things that violate the rules of Wrestling, and thus actually making things more difficult.
Thinking a lot of "I have a perfect opening for this.. move that involves me laying on my back and losing a point.." is not going to help in wrestling competition.
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Dobbersky
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 1323
Location: Manchester. United Kingdom
Styles: Black Tiger Ashihara Karate Jutsu, Japanese Kickboxing, Cheng Man Ch'ing TaiChi
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| JusticeZero wrote: |
I dunno, if it was me i'd go with a striking art, since it sounds as though the goal is to improve his wrestling.
Other grappling arts would improve his ability to grapple and give an awesome background, but a lot of those skills would involve doing things that violate the rules of Wrestling, and thus actually making things more difficult.
Thinking a lot of "I have a perfect opening for this.. move that involves me laying on my back and losing a point.." is not going to help in wrestling competition. |
i agree with this, you tend to look at opposites here and you already do Karate so its sorted
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Liver Punch
Green Belt
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 417
Location: Snake Mountain
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Pro Wrestling, Gun-Fu
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:48 am Post subject: |
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I'm guessing everyone has a different opinion on this! The disclaimer or obviousness is that you want to pick whichever art has the most competent instructor and best environment available to you. I'll assume that all things are equal and it's a matter of "what's better."
His particular brand of wrestling is probably freestyle, which is a great thing to know how to do. I think the perfect supplement to this is Greco-Roman wrestling. The techniques of Greco, in my opinion are both more effective, and safer than what you see most of the time in freestyle. Of course, that's not an option here...
Judo isn't as easy to find quality instruction in as BJJ, due to the former's growing popularity. BJJ would help him grow a lot in his ability to move on the ground, and BJJ would help him with balance and standing maneuverability. They're probably equally beneficial to a wrestler. That said, I think he should learn both in the course of his life, and my opinion is that learning Judo before BJJ is a natural progression.
Also, he's young. Grappling arts seem to lend themselves well to youngsters, and from a combative standpoint, give them lots of options beyond their fists. I'm actually starting Judo in June when the next available class opens up.
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vantheman
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Joined: 18 Apr 2012
Posts: 252
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I do something simply called NoGi Submission Wrestling, also known as grappling. It takes from folk wrestling, BJJ, Judo, among others. Some of the kids in my class do wrestle, and they seem to enjoy it and do well in it.
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Makaala4
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Joined: 16 Apr 2012
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| Liver Punch wrote: |
| Also, he's young. Grappling arts seem to lend themselves well to youngsters, and from a combative standpoint, give them lots of options beyond their fists. I'm actually starting Judo in June when the next available class opens up. |
Liver Punch: Leaning towards Judo myself. My son and I should be starting the same time as you in June, as the Wrestling and school year is finished the end of May. Keep us busy over the summer...Karate Tues and Thurs, Judo on Wed and Fri. |
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Open minded
Yellow Belt
Joined: 29 May 2012
Posts: 53
Location: England
Styles: Karate, judo, jujitsu, ninjisu, wing chun kung fu, JKD, MMA, Aikido, Boxing, Kick Boxing, street fighting, tai chi
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Judo good for wresting as they are both grappling sports and throwing sports
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on the post.
