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ano45
White Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 4
Location: Mississauga
Styles: Goju Shin Ky Ryu
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: Justifed? Yes? No? |
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So here is our scenario...
Joe is a Black Belt who is in a store purchasing some stuff. In walks a robber who is so pumped up that he doesn't even notice Joe standing on the other side of the store. The robber pulls a gun on the clerk and demands money. Joe then runs up to the robber and hits him in the head knocking him unconcious. The robber falls down and cracks his skull open. He dies. _________________ If you do not earn what you recieve, then you should not recieve it at all. |
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ano45
White Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 4
Location: Mississauga
Styles: Goju Shin Ky Ryu
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Was he justified? _________________ If you do not earn what you recieve, then you should not recieve it at all. |
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Sam
Black Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 1748
Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:21 am Post subject: |
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yes
he was defending someone else in a life threatening situatino. the black belt is irrelevant in this case. |
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ano45
White Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Location: Mississauga
Styles: Goju Shin Ky Ryu
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Sam wrote: |
yes
he was defending someone else in a life threatening situatino. the black belt is irrelevant in this case. |
however, HIS life was in no danger... and ur right the black belt part is irrelevant.....but then again, try explaining that to the judge... _________________ If you do not earn what you recieve, then you should not recieve it at all. |
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Sam
Black Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
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Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:11 am Post subject: |
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i was talking morally justified.... |
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ano45
White Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Location: Mississauga
Styles: Goju Shin Ky Ryu
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Sam wrote: |
i was talking morally justified.... |
yes yes but was he legaly JUSTIFIED? _________________ If you do not earn what you recieve, then you should not recieve it at all. |
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Sam
Black Belt
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Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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no then.... |
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Monkeymagic
Yellow Belt
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 97
Location: Beijing
Styles: Seiki-Juku, Shotokan
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Dodgy?!? _________________ 'Karate is a set of beliefs and practices that are never grasped in their totality and that generate more knowledge and more practices' Krug (2001) |
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Sam
Black Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
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Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:22 am Post subject: |
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its a bit odd.... if he gave the robbers some warning the guy turned the gun on him.... or ifthe robber seemed erratic [difficult to prove] he could say he feared for his life as the guy might just shoot the place up anyway.... in either of those cases he would be justified.... if the robber was calm and just pointed thegun at the clerk then no legallyhes not. |
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shotochem
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 29 Dec 2001
Posts: 901
Location: New York
Styles: Shotokan, Kempo, BJJ, Baby-Do-Jitsu
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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I don't believe a jury would ever convict him. If it actually would go to trial think of all the publicity it would get.......
Movie deals, photo ops, time to write that book ect....
No one in their right mind would hold the person accountable. Morally,
if you feel bad send flowers. There is an inherent danger of being killed while performing an armed robbery. Robber gets killed, sucks for him. _________________ Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime. |
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