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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject: Kake dachi & tsuru ashi dachi Reply with quote

Hi everybody!

I`m a bit confused about the kake dachi and tsuru ashi dachi.
Could please someone explain how does the left (hidari) and right (migi) version of the above mentioned stances look like?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, welcome to KF, pati1r; glad that you're here!!


Kake dachi...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hYlBmWpZXQ

Tsuru ashi dachi...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08lzhXcJ2fU

The exacting placement of the foot and/or feet, as well as hand placements will vary from style to style, school to school, however, these might give you a reference.

What style do you train in??





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
First off, welcome to KF, pati1r; glad that you're here!!


Kake dachi...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hYlBmWpZXQ

Tsuru ashi dachi...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08lzhXcJ2fU

The exacting placement of the foot and/or feet, as well as hand placements will vary from style to style, school to school, however, these might give you a reference.

What style do you train in??



Thank you!

That just confirmed what I thought. My main concern was whether migi kake dachi ment that the right leg was in front and migi tsuru ashi dachi - right foot on the ground.

I train kyokushin
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you of course, ask your CI (Chief Instructor) as to the proper foot/feet placement, just to be for sure. With any quality instructor, there is no such thing as dumb or irritating questions, so ask away.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As sensei8 says, ask your teacher. Different schools have different naming schemes.

With that said, the rule of thumb where I train is the foot that’s bearing the weight is typically the side it’s named for, ie right (migi) kokutsu dachi would be right leg back (and left forward) because the majority of the weight is on the right foot. What throws that off is stances where the weight is pretty equal in both feet - Sanchin dachi, zenkutsu dachi, etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again styles differ from one another, with purpose, for example, whenever I teach Zenkutsu dachi, the weight distribution is not equal, however, it's more 60% for the front foot and 40% for the rear foot. Now, Kiba dachi, is one of the most widely used stance in all of Karate, no matter the style, and its weight distribution is equal, with both feet sharing the load...50% each.



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
Once again styles differ from one another, with purpose, for example, whenever I teach Zenkutsu dachi, the weight distribution is not equal, however, it's more 60% for the front foot and 40% for the rear foot. Now, Kiba dachi, is one of the most widely used stance in all of Karate, no matter the style, and its weight distribution is equal, with both feet sharing the load...50% each.




That’s in line with what I’ve been taught too. In retrospect, I should’ve used kiba dachi there instead of zenkutsu dachi.
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