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rabid hamster
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2002 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone told me that karate was exactly like TKD, only with a slight few changes. Is this true?

Thank you
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G95champ
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2002 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone has a post here about how TKD came from Shotokan. I think TKD has underwent a lot of changes and is nothing like karate now. However you can find parts of all arts in other arts. So I guess the answer to your question is yes and no.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2002 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes and no

TKD is also called "Korean Karate", in fact, when TKD came to america, it was know as "Korean Karate" and no as "taekwondo" because nobody knew wtf that mean.

Today, TKD is sightly different from Shotokan, and Karate in general.
In TKD you work around 70% of kicks, and 30% (maybe less) of hand work, in fact, many people that have seen TKD fights have asked me "they only can kick? no punching?"

but they have some things in common, like both have "kata's" (in TKD they are called "figures") and so on...
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KENSHI
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2002 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and No,
Karate and Taekwondo are same, their both are martial art with a few same punch and kick.

But Karate and Taekwondo have a different too, in TKD kick is dominant then punch
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Venezolano is right.
Tae Kwon Do was often referred to as Korean Karate when it came to the USA.
A lot of people think that in Tae Kwon Do, you use your legs all the time and never use your hands.
That's not true, in Tae Kwon Do you learn a lot of hand techniques, however as Venezolano says, you learn about 70% kicks and 30% hand techniques.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea was occupied by Japan for a long time. During the occupation, Indegenous arts were repressed by the Japanese. When Korea became independant, they wanted to establish a national identity. One thing they wanted to do was establish a national art.

So General Choi Hong Hi, with a Black Belt in Shotokan Karate, created Tae Kwan Do as a national art. TKD had standardized names, belts, rules, and forms (several of the Poomse being exact replicas of Karate Kata).

The base of TKD is Choi, and the martial base of Choi was Karate. That said, many of the initial instructors had other backgrounds, and half-a-century has passed. "Karate" and TKD (wtf, atf, itf, etc) are not identical, but they do have a shared history.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the techniques are almost exactly the same, but the emphasis is different
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Arys
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Jerry...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

karate doesn't have an axe kick and cut kicks and some other kicks and focuses more on punches. tkd is about speed, while karate is more about power from my knowledge.

also tkd tends to have more full contact sparring(I think). both wtf n itf are full contact nowadays while shotokan is non contact point sparring. sport wise
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Radok
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually (in my style at least), Karate does have an ax kick, but I haven't heard of a "cut kick".
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