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Iron Arahat
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karatekid1975
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Joined: 26 Mar 2002
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Location: Upstate NY
Styles: Tang Soo Do/TKD/jujitsu
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I did in TSD. I was learning it at blue belt (5th gup/kyu). It was mainly learning how to "avoid" the knife at first. Then we got into disarming then locks (arm locks). Then we put them together. I moved shortly after that, so I didn't learn anymore than that.
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Blade13
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I learned them when I was about 4 or 5, I cant really remember. My mom (Trooper and former member of the Police Department. Also a current member of the riot squad. She was asked to be on a SWAT team, but turned it down.) taught me all of that. They were disarming techniques and how to defend against them in a fight.
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koreantiger81
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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i'm in tae kwon do.I learned knife attacks right before black belt. I haven't learned gun attacks..I have a question for you, iron arahat..Do you really feel comfortable defending yourself against a gun? Is it actually possible???? |
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karatekid1975
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I seen defenses against guns. I never did them, but if someone (gunman) is close enough, I think it's possible with a VERY EXPERIECED martial artist.
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tessone
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Joined: 23 Apr 2002
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Location: Galesburg, IL
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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That stuff is usually taught around the black belt level in KSW. I think some instructors hold self-defense style classes where they teach this earlier, though.
There have been a number of articles in Black Belt about defenses against a gun attack. If they're close and you're fast, it seems like it could work. If they're six feet away from you, you're in trouble.
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
Posts: 1299
Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu Karate do; Kung Fu.
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Our teacher told us that against a weapon, it doesn't matter too much the techniques, its all about Attitude.. You can have 100+ techinques against weapons, but if you aren't sure or you are affraid to use it, none is going to work and you'd get kill.
The Best Technique against a weapon is avoid the confrontation.
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rabid hamster
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Common.. can a gun defence actually work? If someone sticks a gun in your head you're gonna be scared and freaking out, will you really have the time to think of what to do? I guess no one will ever know though, unless they've been through the actual situation. |
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ckdstudent
Green Belt
Joined: 09 May 2002
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Location: Surrey, England
Styles: Choi Kwang Do
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Gun defenses are really only designed to be used when you know you're gonna die if you don't get the gun off them, otherwise there's just too much risk.
Knife defenses are much more effective, so long as you're prepared to get cut.
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Pacificshore
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Joined: 26 Mar 2002
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Location: West Coast
Styles: Chinese Kenpo/Kara-Ho Kempo
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Gun and Knife defense isn't taught until 3rd and 4th kyu in our system. My feeling about weapons defense/disarms/take-aways is that it needs to be practiced constantly, more so than unarmed defense.
I've even taken a gun defense course put on by Krav Maga. That was a pretty intense course and for the most part I've found it to be simple and direct. |
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