|
Author |
Message |
KaratekaAndy
Yellow Belt
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 66
Location: United Kingdom
Styles: Karate
|
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: Law query - Please reply as I need to know |
|
|
Is there a law in the UK that allows/disallows a person to defend themselves from a group with a weapon such as a staff/nunchaku/etc.?
I want to know as most people who pickfights in my school do so in groups against one/two people and I wanted to know whether i could use one of the aforementioned weapons to inflict injury on anyone who attacks me in such a maner.
Thanx for your replies in advance _________________ "...to stand between the candle and the shining moon..." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
scottnshelly
KF VIP
Joined: 10 Sep 2004
Posts: 715
Location: Ardmore, Oklahoma
Styles: My Style
|
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I’m from America, so I’m not fluent with U.K. laws. I would say for your question about the law, call your local police department.
As far as taking a weapon to school, that is a very bad idea. If you or someone you know is having a problem with bullies, talk to a parent or teacher. Don’t try to take this matter into your own hands. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
KaratekaAndy
Yellow Belt
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 66
Location: United Kingdom
Styles: Karate
|
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: |
|
|
Just note I don't carry weapons to school. I am talking about improvised weapons such as sticks to be used like staffs and other possible improvisations. _________________ "...to stand between the candle and the shining moon..." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
solar_kid
Orange Belt
Joined: 25 Apr 2004
Posts: 152
Location: Denver, Colorado
Styles: Shotokan
|
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Well, I am no expert in law, UK or otherwise either, but I would be surprised if you were not allowed to defend yourself when you were being attacked.
That said, chances are also good that using a weapon to defend yourself will get you into trouble anyway.
If you have no choice, by all means defend yourself.
However, it is preferable to retreat if possible. You get to avoid potential difficult and embarrassing investigative and legal proceedings to determine if you were in actual danger and your use of force was actually necessary. Even if it was necessary, you might still be in trouble if your use of force was excessive. Keep in mind you might face both criminal charges and lawsuits from anyone you injured. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
patusai
Black Belt
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Posts: 1648
Location: Palos Hills, IL
Styles: So Ryu, Shorin Ryu, Isshin Ryu
|
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
I contact your police department or consult with someone familiar with the law....Lawyer maybe. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TheDarxide
Yellow Belt
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Posts: 27
Location: England
Styles: Shotokan
|
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
Speaking as a UK school employee, dude, you will probably get expelled. Regardless of provocation, if you take a chair leg to another kid, you will face severe consequences.
If you've got problems, i know it isn't 'cool', but speak to a member of staff. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
KaratekaAndy
Yellow Belt
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 66
Location: United Kingdom
Styles: Karate
|
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
TheDarxide wrote: |
If you've got problems, i know it isn't 'cool', but speak to a member of staff. |
I don't have problems at the moment, but a mate of mine got done for defending himself with a d-lock against 5 chavs who were trying to jump him. 1 of the chavs had a knife, but didn't use it.
My mate got arrested because he hit 2 of the chavs over the head with the lock, after they started hitting him. _________________ "...to stand between the candle and the shining moon..." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TheDarxide
Yellow Belt
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Posts: 27
Location: England
Styles: Shotokan
|
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
KaratekaAndy wrote: |
TheDarxide wrote: |
If you've got problems, i know it isn't 'cool', but speak to a member of staff. |
I don't have problems at the moment, but a mate of mine got done for defending himself with a d-lock against 5 chavs who were trying to jump him. 1 of the chavs had a knife, but didn't use it.
My mate got arrested because he hit 2 of the chavs over the head with the lock, after they started hitting him. |
I can only assume that the Police thought that didn't constitute reasonable force. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
KaratekaAndy
Yellow Belt
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 66
Location: United Kingdom
Styles: Karate
|
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
TheDarxide wrote: |
I can only assume that the Police thought that didn't constitute reasonable force. |
He got done for using excessive violence, but all the chavs got done for unprovoked assault. _________________ "...to stand between the candle and the shining moon..." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Sam
Black Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 1748
Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
|
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
ok since it doesnt look like there have been many UK replies... if they're unarmed then NO YOU CANNOT USE A WEAPON - sounds weird but a weapon counts as agressive no matter what... unless THEY are armed... sorry to say it, but if you defend with a weapon against unarmed groups you will likely get done...
Sam |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|