Laying into your opponent.

Jack · Black Belt

Hey there all.

A few weeks ago I went to my club's full-day training venue where all of the instructor's were present, and about 50 students. It was great and we covered forms, sparring, even dabbled in some Jiu Jutsu knife-defence and it was all great fun. But what intrigued me was the gauntlet we had to run; We would have one minute spar after one minute spar against all of the Black belts and instructors, about 10 in total. What I noticed was how amazing some of these black belts were at really laying into you and when they did I could hardly do anything to defend myself. It was the same with a lot of the students at my level and a fair few highers. They simply could not defend against these skillful "lay-in"s. I really want to know how to properly lay into my opponent, not just a load of weak punches. Any advice on how to lay into your opponent, and how to escape if your opponents starts laying into you?

thanks
Jack

SBN Doug · KF VIP

Whenever I've had someone try and go all out on me, I usually keep moving in circles. Similar to a boxer evading a stalking apponent. They usually pause, after trying a time or two, in order to try and time their attack with your circle. The instant they pause, is when I move in.

Making each contact a quality strike is mearly a matter of proper execusion of the technique. And that will come from repetition. Proper hip rotation, full extention, and (like Angus and Ken have said) having combinations of techniques that work well for you are some examples.

Jack · Black Belt

Great advice Doug, thanks. I'll try it out next time I spar.

Angus · Black Belt

Laying into someone is easy once ur in, u just have to know what combination goes with which. I mean, it's hard to throw an elbow then do a spinning heel kick. Go in with combos like cross-jab-cross-hook and all that. Laying into someone generally uses your bread and butter techniques such as jab-cross-hook-uppercut.
When someone is coming into u fullon then trying to block every strike is not the way to go. You should learn to cover up like a boxer does, and duck and wave, moving in circles (as mentioned above) and getting out of the full force of the attack. Don't worry if u get hit a couple of times, it happens to everyone.
Also as is stated above, good technique will allow u to strike properly and firmly.

Stay kool bro,
Angus

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SaiFightsMS · KF VIP

Jack I think it is a matter of experience and more time training. How much longer have they trained? And how much more sparring have they done? Something is wrong with a school that has black belts who are routine losers to underbelts.

A special event like that has obvious value. Many times in class when a higher rank faces a lower rank it is part of the job of the higher rank to hold back enough to challange the jr student but allow them to learn at the same time. A very difficult thing to learn.

With your attitude and application to your training some day some one will wonder the same thing about you. Just keep training and practicing and learning.

jakmak52 · Green Belt

kicker · Black Belt

well you need to attack him give everything and don't slow down and rest intil the rounds over and need to develope your speed and dodging and blocking also countering.

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Jack · Black Belt

Thanks to everyone for all of the great responses, they're all greatly appreciated!

Now then, combinations for laying in is fine, but how do you actually move into them while firing these shots? Do you tend to take step by step forwards in normal fighting stance, or more a sort of run into them while punching?

Henry South · Yellow Belt

dont "run"into your opponent. more of a slide just shove off your back foot in a ready stance and come in hard fast and low. you may also wait until you feel they might over reach on a punch side step and bring in a middle kick to the ribs. another thing... dont think about the belt! it will just put you off.
yours
HenrySouth

moobrack · Black Belt

I have never actually laid into anyone and never been layed into.

I spar with people with control all the time, not because I chose to, just because people form my club are all contrlled at sparring.

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