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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know what it means, but is complacency as much as a oxymoron to martial arts/artists in such a display of wording?

OK?!? I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but, HUH????


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
RichardZ wrote:
I know what it means, but is complacency as much as a oxymoron to martial arts/artists in such a display of wording?

OK?!? I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but, HUH????



The sharpest knife is not considered the do-all knife. I am not speaking in metaphorical terms. However, could it not be that complacency is a total negative thing for martial arts/artists?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Complacency in the Martial Arts/Martial Artist is a oxymoron!


I think that this feeling of immunity is exactly the problem. Rather than addressing the issue directly by examining and adjusting our training and attitudes, we pretend that we are above those inadequacies. We convince ourselves that the mere fact that we are martial artists delivers us from complacency, arrogance, ill temper, and a dozen other forms of hubris. This is exactly the complacent attitude that we need to avoid. When we start saying "A martial artist is humble. I am a martial artist. Ergo I must be humble," we assume that we already have certain attributes, and shut out the potential for improvement in those areas.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok! My bad! My point has either been missed or not understood. That's my fault!

The reason I don't worry about my becoming complacent is because I'll never be that good. Meanwhile, I'll just keep on training and training and training...

I just don't have the time and/or the inclination and/or patience for any complacency! Let others worry about complacency...I just don't!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

algernon wrote:
sensei8 wrote:
Complacency in the Martial Arts/Martial Artist is a oxymoron!


I think that this feeling of immunity is exactly the problem. Rather than dressing the issue directly by examining and adjusting our training and attitudes, we pretend that we are above those inadequacies. We convince ourselves that the mere fact that we are martial artists delivers us from complacency, arrogance, ill temper, and a dozen other forms of hubris. This is exactly the complacent attitude that we need to avoid. When we start saying "A martial artist is humble. I am a martial artist. Ergo I must be humble," we assume that we already have certain attributes, and shut out the potential for improvement in those areas.


I think there are some good words in here. They are things to be kept in mind, for certain.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
Ok! My bad! My point has either been missed or not understood. That's my fault!

The reason I don't worry about my becoming complacent is because I'll never be that good. Meanwhile, I'll just keep on training and training and training...

I just don't have the time and/or the inclination and/or patience for any complacency! Let others worry about complacency...I just don't!



This is a good way to be for any martial artist. However, many of martial artist get caught in complacency as shown for a goal such as a black belt, or degrees thereof. In other words, the rank and symbol are more important and tend to instill complacent tones instead of striving for excellance in ability(ies)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RichardZ wrote:
sensei8 wrote:
Ok! My bad! My point has either been missed or not understood. That's my fault!

The reason I don't worry about my becoming complacent is because I'll never be that good. Meanwhile, I'll just keep on training and training and training...

I just don't have the time and/or the inclination and/or patience for any complacency! Let others worry about complacency...I just don't!



This is a good way to be for any martial artist. However, many of martial artist get caught in complacency as shown for a goal such as a black belt, or degrees thereof. In other words, the rank and symbol are more important and tend to instill complacent tones instead of striving for excellance in ability(ies)

I agree with you sir! Those who are in the martial arts for rank and degrees only are in the martial arts for entirely the wrong reasons.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, people can be complacent with anything.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RichardZ wrote:
Indeed, people can be complacent with anything.

Ohh......there's that word again...complacent...well...I'm fine with it!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, so you are saying that you are compacent with the word and its associations?
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