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the beast
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Joined: 13 Dec 2007
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Location: Pittsburgh Pa
Styles: Shotokan
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I think martial arts in the public school system would be a great idea. I know there are alot of kids out there who lack discipline and self confidence that it would greatly benefit, also maybe it would cut down on children being bullied because they would be taught to respect one another.
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joesteph
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Joined: 11 Aug 2008
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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In my hometown, Bayonne NJ, the way Tae Kwon Do is taught on school property is through the Community Education Program. Residents throughout the city receive a booklet of many courses offered, including TKD, and it's available for kids right after school, and also teens and adults at other times.
The limitation is that it's non-contact, the same now as it was twenty years ago, and it's obviously a legal concern. But since people attend private non-contact schools, it's not an anomaly.
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Ozpunker
Orange Belt
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
Posts: 100
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Styles: Kaizen Ryu Freestyle Karate
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| One thing that I forgot to mention is that although I think Martial arts should be made available in schools, it should never be made compulsory. If that was the case I think it'd have quite a negative effect. |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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There's no way I can see this in American schools, only because it would challenge the "Zero Tolerance Policy".
Teaching students how to defend themselves is definitely a bad idea. If a student is attacked, and they achieve light control in order to potentially save their lives, they get suspended! No matter what! There's no way martial arts should be taught in public schools. |
I don't really see this as an issue at all. Case-in-point; Wrestling is already a sport option in most school systems. Other Martial Arts can be taught in a similar premise without any concern.
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DWx
Black Belt
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 6455
Location: UK
Styles: Tae Kwon Do & Yang family Tai Chi
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| Truestar wrote: |
There's no way I can see this in American schools, only because it would challenge the "Zero Tolerance Policy".
Teaching students how to defend themselves is definitely a bad idea. If a student is attacked, and they achieve light control in order to potentially save their lives, they get suspended! No matter what! There's no way martial arts should be taught in public schools. |
I don't really see this as an issue at all. Case-in-point; Wrestling is already a sport option in most school systems. Other Martial Arts can be taught in a similar premise without any concern. |
I agree with bushido_man96 on this one. Its not that much different than kids learning outside of school in any case. The same thing could still happen.
As a side note, I have a friend from Hong Kong who was taught MA as part of sports classes from junior school upwards.
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Truestar
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Joined: 07 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| DWx wrote: |
| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| Truestar wrote: |
There's no way I can see this in American schools, only because it would challenge the "Zero Tolerance Policy".
Teaching students how to defend themselves is definitely a bad idea. If a student is attacked, and they achieve light control in order to potentially save their lives, they get suspended! No matter what! There's no way martial arts should be taught in public schools. |
I don't really see this as an issue at all. Case-in-point; Wrestling is already a sport option in most school systems. Other Martial Arts can be taught in a similar premise without any concern. |
I agree with bushido_man96 on this one. Its not that much different than kids learning outside of school in any case. The same thing could still happen.
As a side note, I have a friend from Hong Kong who was taught MA as part of sports classes from junior school upwards. |
The paragraph you quoted was my "this is what would be said by the community", my true feelings were expressed below.  |
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joesteph
Black Belt
Joined: 11 Aug 2008
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Truestar wrote: |
| DWx wrote: |
| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| Truestar wrote: |
There's no way I can see this in American schools, only because it would challenge the "Zero Tolerance Policy".
Teaching students how to defend themselves is definitely a bad idea. If a student is attacked, and they achieve light control in order to potentially save their lives, they get suspended! No matter what! There's no way martial arts should be taught in public schools. |
I don't really see this as an issue at all. Case-in-point; Wrestling is already a sport option in most school systems. Other Martial Arts can be taught in a similar premise without any concern. |
I agree with bushido_man96 on this one. Its not that much different than kids learning outside of school in any case. The same thing could still happen.
As a side note, I have a friend from Hong Kong who was taught MA as part of sports classes from junior school upwards. |
The paragraph you quoted was my "this is what would be said by the community", my true feelings were expressed below. |
Truestar speaks the truth! His actual feelings were:
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Now for the reality aspect, absolutely. I think it would be awesome to get high schools involved in tournaments and whatnot. My dojang would always come before my school, however I would be more than glad to compete, train, and share my knowledge of the martial arts with my peers.
Unfortunately my fake little ramble up top is the argument of a lot of people. Martial Arts is taught a little bit in schools, (EKP-Education Karate Program), but that's as much as I've ever heard in schools and MA.
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Truestar, this is the danger of first playing Devil's Advocate, and then coming across with the "Right Stuff." I remember when I first read it, I was shocked--then relieved when right reason prevailed in the end!
 
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Ranpu
Yellow Belt
Joined: 07 Dec 2008
Posts: 83
Location: U.S.
Styles: Isshin-Ryu Karate
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In my school, I have a friend thats in wrestling, and I wanted to learn karate, but I had to find a dojo because the school doesn't and wont teeach it because its more physical with less padding then most sports, wrestling is mainly grappling and submission
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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brokenswordx
Orange Belt
Joined: 22 May 2006
Posts: 101
Location: America
Styles: Shito-Ryu Karate, Muso Jikiden Eishin Iaido, Kendo
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As for the topic of this thread, i don't believe that martial arts should be put into public schools for the main fact that martial arts isn't for everybody. It is a commitment, and if children are forced to take it, they will do the same thing they do all day in school: horse around, not pay attention, and come to despise being put there. I think that would be a blasphemy. Then again, not many feel as strongly as i do. |
I feel the same way. Forcing someone to do something they don't want it never a good idea.
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I am, however, attending college this fall, and there are martial arts classes offered at my university. I think that this is a wonderful opportunity, for it gives young adults the opportunity to partake in a new experience that may change their lives, while not being mandatory.
I am slightly apprehensive about the quality of the teaching, however, but am looking forward to it nonetheless. |
Good luck!
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