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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:48 pm    Post subject: minimal damage Reply with quote

It is good to defend oneself. Contain the person and run off. Also carry pepper spray.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a second there
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I was mistaken
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had the run through of pepper spray. I will never carry it, or ever try to use it. I just don't think it is that reliable.

I don't have anything against not hurting someone as much as possible, however, if someone puts my safety at stake, I will surely not hold their's in high regard.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



I am the same way, bushido man. I don't keep it on my belt, and I flat out tell new guys (everyone else knows) to never, ever deploy that stuff around me. It's as likely to turn me into a blubbering pile of jello as the bad guy, who according to Murphy's Law will not even be phased by it. I'll wrestle the guy, thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually have a knife, but I can't ever see it being used. I can certainly maim somebody without any weapons and my first reaction is never to reach for my pocket. I keep it on me for two reasons: (1) it's a pretty cool looking knife and (2) if it's a situation in which I would prefer to scare away an opponent rather than face them (i.e. they keep getting back up or someone else, say a friend, is also with me and they're at risk as well).

I hate pepper spray as well though. It really does taint the air around you, and there are varying laws on carrying it, so a knife is just easier.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bushido_man96 wrote:
I've had the run through of pepper spray. I will never carry it, or ever try to use it. I just don't think it is that reliable.

I don't have anything against not hurting someone as much as possible, however, if someone puts my safety at stake, I will surely not hold their's in high regard.


100% in agreement on all counts!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Montana wrote:
bushido_man96 wrote:
I've had the run through of pepper spray. I will never carry it, or ever try to use it. I just don't think it is that reliable.

I don't have anything against not hurting someone as much as possible, however, if someone puts my safety at stake, I will surely not hold their's in high regard.


100% in agreement on all counts!


Thanks, Motana.

Zaine wrote:
I actually have a knife, but I can't ever see it being used. I can certainly maim somebody without any weapons and my first reaction is never to reach for my pocket. I keep it on me for two reasons: (1) it's a pretty cool looking knife and (2) if it's a situation in which I would prefer to scare away an opponent rather than face them (i.e. they keep getting back up or someone else, say a friend, is also with me and they're at risk as well).


By training on ways to deploy your knife, you can become more comfortable with drawing it, and making accessible as a first reaction, should it need to be one. Just something to think about.
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Zaine
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, but I like to think of that as a last resort. I'm already perfectly comfortable with physically facing the opponent as I am.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zaine wrote:
True, but I like to think of that as a last resort. I'm already perfectly comfortable with physically facing the opponent as I am.
And that's a good thing. I'm just thinking more along a worst-case-scenario line of thinking, in case you would need to escalate to a weapon.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bushido_man96 wrote:
And that's a good thing. I'm just thinking more along a worst-case-scenario line of thinking, in case you would need to escalate to a weapon.


Yeah I'm definitely with you. If it escalates to a situation that would need me to take a knife I would probably have the good mind to take it out. I clear my mind in the heat of a fight, but when I get to a point that I need to run usually something in me snaps back into a working mind (thankfully, God help me if that stops).
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