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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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In point sparring you do think about takedowns..thats a bad habit
In point sparring you hit someone once and the fight stops
In point sparring if you hit the top of my head before my elbow hits your jaw..you win..
In point sparring you USUALLY dont spar full contact.
Most point sparring tournaments do not allowe knees or elbows or takedowns or even punches to the face.
Yes i think it can teach bad habits. |
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ShadowWolf01
White Belt
Joined: 28 May 2003
Posts: 9
Location: Newmarket
Styles: Hoshinroshiryu Jutaijutsu
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:21 am Post subject: |
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If your going to talk serious about fighting on the street then there are a couple of things that you have to train for that MMA and Point Sparring will never prepare you for. I speak from my own personal experience and other's may or may not agree with me and that's okay, I would still like to hear your feedback.
If your fighting on the street then there are a couple of thing to keep in mind. First, there are no rules, and second, I'd say that 95% of the time your opponent and his / her friends don't have any honour (Canadian Spelling) or respect. Its not often that I hear about a street / bar fight when its one on one, most times you get the other person's friends trying to jump you from behind. If its not that then your opponent introduces a weapon to the fight, anything from a wooden stick, steel pipe, knife, and heaven help us if its a gun.
Think of the idiot that starts the street fight. I would have to assume that this is not the first fight that this person has ever started and I would say that yes, this person is experienced in fighting, even if he is not officially trained. Being skilled in MA (ring or point fighting) will give you a slight advantage, but if you have not trained to fight a person with a weapon or multiple attackers then your advantage just went into the sewer.
How many of you train for being attacked from multiple attackers or by a weapon? I do.
This is one of the biggest things that separate a sport dojo from a combat dojo. There are other things that separate the two types but in my personal opinion, this is the biggest.
I hope I haven't offended anyone but with all the talk on sport or street fighting, I feel that no one has brought in the realistic possibilities of outside interference that MMA or Point fighters never have to worry about in a ring fight.
I have fought and been jumped from behind and I have had someone pull a knife out at me, things like this happen often in a "Real fight".
Let me know your thoughts on this. _________________ Fight the system with the system and not against the system |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:31 am Post subject: |
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yes there are alot more variables in a street fight..weapones and multiple opponets are both very real threats.
There are other things that MMA does not teach aswell...but i still feel it's great preperation for a confrentation.
As long as you keep other variables in mind. |
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aznkarateboi
Brown Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Posts: 627
Styles: shaolin gung fu southern style
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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point sparring has a chance to teach bad habits but i think that the positive effects outweigh the negative ones by a great deal |
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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It keeps growing and growing. When will it stop! _________________ "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who
are willing to endure pain with patience."
"Lock em out or Knock em out" |
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