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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:36 am    Post subject: Most Effective Karate Move Reply with quote

I know this is a complex question with complex answers, but I am going to try to simplify it anyway:

If you had to pick one move (bunkai, kumite move, combination, etc.) that you think is the single most effective in Karate, what would it be?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking. No other techniques can work without looking in the right place at the right time. Without it one cannot judge what to do or where to move. One must look to see openings or and seize opportunities to counter whatever attack comes wherever it is aimed.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a technique but a principle. Kuzushi.
Nothing puts an opponent on the back foot like trying to regain their balance and structure.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timing.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoiding a fight if at all possible.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trick questions/answers aside, answering just the exact question of a "move," and not something more broad:

A punch to the face.

There are lots of principles/concepts that can be used to deliver that punch to the face. There are lots of things you can do to make it more effective, or counter an opponent's defenses to ensure it lands, and so on, but when it comes right down to it, a punch to the face is probably the highest percentage fight-ender that exists in fighting, statistically.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of whatís been posted are things Iíd consider principles rather than actual techniques. I agree with them all, of course.

If I could only do one thing, but it would work every single time, no matter what the attack was, itís very simple:

Sweep

Every time they came within contact distance, Iíd sweep them, and theyíd end up on the ground and out of range. If someone canít touch me, they canít do anything. How would it go if you got swept before every punch? Before every kick? Before every takedown? Before every throw? Before, well, everything?

Thereís an older yondan at the dojo that I call the custodian. He sweeps people like itís his job. Whenever Iím sparring him, I know if I didnít get swept, itís because he chose not to rather than couldnít. Sometimes he sweeps me, sometimes he just taps my foot to remind me. And when he didnít do either of those, itís still on my mind
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wastelander wrote:
Trick questions/answers aside, answering just the exact question of a "move," and not something more broad:

A punch to the face.

There are lots of principles/concepts that can be used to deliver that punch to the face. There are lots of things you can do to make it more effective, or counter an opponent's defenses to ensure it lands, and so on, but when it comes right down to it, a punch to the face is probably the highest percentage fight-ender that exists in fighting, statistically.


This is fitting. Many MAs spend lots of time learning complex movements and applications, and in the end, it all filters down to this.

Reminds me of Bruce Lee's "...a punch is just a punch, a kick is just a kick..." quote.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamming!!

The core heart of Shindokan's Tuite; this is the hub of our brand. If my opponent can't complete said technique, then I've set in motion as to neutralize my opponent.

Nothing more enjoyable than seeing that confounding look roll onto my opponents flushed face as my jamming sets my Tuite in an effective motion.




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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most effective technique? Whatever technique ends the fight before it begins or after it is initiated.
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