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Fat Cobra
Green Belt
Joined: 14 Jul 2018
Posts: 372
Location: Watertown, NY
Styles: Ryukyu Kempo
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:36 am Post subject: Most Effective Karate Move |
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I know this is a complex question with complex answers, but I am going to try to simplify it anyway:
If you had to pick one move (bunkai, kumite move, combination, etc.) that you think is the single most effective in Karate, what would it be? _________________ Yondan in Ryukyu Kempo
Head of the Shubu Kan Dojo in Carthage, NY
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Spartacus Maximus
Black Belt
Joined: 01 Jun 2014
Posts: 1902
Styles: Shorin ryu
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Looking. No other techniques can work without looking in the right place at the right time. Without it one cannot judge what to do or where to move. One must look to see openings or and seize opportunities to counter whatever attack comes wherever it is aimed. |
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mushybees
Orange Belt
Joined: 16 Nov 2014
Posts: 199
Location: UK
Styles: Wado ryu
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:18 am Post subject: |
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It's not a technique but a principle. Kuzushi.
Nothing puts an opponent on the back foot like trying to regain their balance and structure. |
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tallgeese
Black Belt
Joined: 04 May 2008
Posts: 6879
Location: McHenry County, IL
Styles: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Gokei Ryu Kempo Jutsu, MMA, Shootfighting, boxing, kickboxing, JKD, Pekiti Tersia Kali
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hammer
Green Belt
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
Posts: 370
Styles: Kyokushin, TKD
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Avoiding a fight if at all possible. |
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Wastelander
KF Sensei
Joined: 18 Oct 2010
Posts: 2734
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Styles: Shorin-Ryu, Shuri-Ryu, Judo, KishimotoDi
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Trick questions/answers aside, answering just the exact question of a "move," and not something more broad:
A punch to the face.
There are lots of principles/concepts that can be used to deliver that punch to the face. There are lots of things you can do to make it more effective, or counter an opponent's defenses to ensure it lands, and so on, but when it comes right down to it, a punch to the face is probably the highest percentage fight-ender that exists in fighting, statistically. _________________ Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf Karlsson
Shorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)
Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)
Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian Rivera
Illinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society |
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JR 137
Black Belt
Joined: 10 May 2015
Posts: 2442
Location: In the dojo
Styles: Seido Juku
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Most of what’s been posted are things I’d consider principles rather than actual techniques. I agree with them all, of course.
If I could only do one thing, but it would work every single time, no matter what the attack was, it’s very simple:
Sweep
Every time they came within contact distance, I’d sweep them, and they’d end up on the ground and out of range. If someone can’t touch me, they can’t do anything. How would it go if you got swept before every punch? Before every kick? Before every takedown? Before every throw? Before, well, everything?
There’s an older yondan at the dojo that I call the custodian. He sweeps people like it’s his job. Whenever I’m sparring him, I know if I didn’t get swept, it’s because he chose not to rather than couldn’t. Sometimes he sweeps me, sometimes he just taps my foot to remind me. And when he didn’t do either of those, it’s still on my mind |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Wastelander wrote: |
Trick questions/answers aside, answering just the exact question of a "move," and not something more broad:
A punch to the face.
There are lots of principles/concepts that can be used to deliver that punch to the face. There are lots of things you can do to make it more effective, or counter an opponent's defenses to ensure it lands, and so on, but when it comes right down to it, a punch to the face is probably the highest percentage fight-ender that exists in fighting, statistically. |
This is fitting. Many MAs spend lots of time learning complex movements and applications, and in the end, it all filters down to this.
Reminds me of Bruce Lee's "...a punch is just a punch, a kick is just a kick..." quote. _________________ www.haysgym.com
http://www.sunyis.com/
www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Jamming!!
The core heart of Shindokan's Tuite; this is the hub of our brand. If my opponent can't complete said technique, then I've set in motion as to neutralize my opponent.
Nothing more enjoyable than seeing that confounding look roll onto my opponents flushed face as my jamming sets my Tuite in an effective motion.
_________________ **Proof is on the floor!!! |
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MatsuShinshii
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1423
Location: Kentucky
Styles: Machimura Suidi Rokudan, Ryukyu Kenpo, Kobudo, Judo
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Most effective technique? Whatever technique ends the fight before it begins or after it is initiated. _________________ The person who succeeds is not the one who holds back, fearing failure, nor the one who never fails-but the one who moves on in spite of failure.
Charles R. Swindoll |
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