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Pacificshore
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2002 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it that when a prominent Martial Artist passes, soon afterwards there's always controversy on who his/her replacement is going to be?

This always seems to be the case, like when Ed Parker passed on, the Kenpo world became fractionalized. Now, there is the Modern Arnis organization(GM Remy Presas). I read an article in the recent issue of IKF, as to who the replacement person is suppose to be, or the number of students that went on to create a new organization and proclaim themselves the new leader.

What is wrong with just training together and propagating your chosen art by passing it on to others interested in learning. Martial Arts politics.....just like regular politics, it bites. Just my rambling thoughts!
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kajukenbo dad
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will stand in your corner, on that one......good luck
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SandanPJ
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same happend when Nick Cerio passed away, the system broke into a couple pieces from there....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. I hate politics. I especially hate it when it interfiers with my 'liesure' time. But it seeems to be rampant in the martial arts. Most styles I've come across have some bitter internal fights going on all the time. Then there's the style vs. style thing. Personally, I look at other Kenpo organizations and other styles as just another way to accomplish the same things. I work out and train with them, and allways have a good time; even with those *#@! Arnis guys, who take a little too much pleasure in beating me with sticks ! But when the political talk starts, I just go work on a form or something. I just refuse to get involved, and the martial arts seem to go on anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since this thread deals with the politics of martial arts, I will move it to the proper forum
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody needs to be the head or "face" of an organisation. Others will disagree on the choice of this person, or the direction they are taking the art and feel their way is better.
If two or more people are the same grade then there will be disagreement over who who head the organisation and politics will inevitably become involved.
It's the nature of Man.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i back you here bro
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i back you here bro
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