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humblecanadiangojuguy
White Belt
Joined: 03 Nov 2003
Posts: 14
Styles: Goju-ryu
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:24 am Post subject: Politics in Martial arts |
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Why is there so much politics in martial arts from people who claim to have no ego or that ego is bad. Soooo many of these people have very big egos, that is the problem. Thanks |
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Jussi Häkkinen
Purple Belt
Joined: 28 Aug 2003
Posts: 507
Location: Turku, Finland
Styles: Okinawan Shorin-Ryu Seibukan Karate-Do
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Why are politics and big ego a concern for you?
We're humans. It's natural for us to act that way. So, politics are rather inevitable. _________________ Jussi Häkkinen
Okinawan Shorin-Ryu Seibukan Karate-Do (Kyan Chotoku lineage)
Turku
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humblecanadiangojuguy
White Belt
Joined: 03 Nov 2003
Posts: 14
Styles: Goju-ryu
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Politics should be a concern to anyone who is in martial arts and has been effected by it. I have been effected by it. If we as martial artists want to better ourselves through Karate then we should avoid politics whenever we can. Karate is what we do, not politics. Leave politics for goverments and work places. From Humblecanadiangojuguy |
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stl_karateka
Brown Belt
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
Posts: 645
Location: O'fallon IL
Styles: Shorin Ryu & Isshin Ryu
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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It sucks cause the people that end up getting hurt is the students / competitors. I see it going on now. _________________ KarateForums.com Sempai |
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delta1
Black Belt
Joined: 17 Feb 2003
Posts: 1780
Location: North Central Washington
Styles: It's ALL Kenpo! Bring it back to base!
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Politics in Martial arts |
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humblecanadiangojuguy wrote: |
...politics in martial arts from people who claim to have no ego or that ego is bad. |
I think a certain ammount of ego is necessary to be a good martial artist. The problem is that people don't learn how to control their egos, or else they are too self centered to try. _________________ Freedom isn't free! |
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Shorinryu Sensei
Black Belt
Joined: 13 Jun 2002
Posts: 2045
Location: Kalispell, Montana
Styles: Shorinryu Matsumura Kenpo (Seito/Orthodox) Karate and Kobudo
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Where you have people, you have politics. It's just human nature.
Years ago, I quit the only organization that governed the system that I study because of politics, and I was on my own and without an organization to work with for quite a few years. This is the main reason I haven't had a promotions since 1990..and that's OK with me.
I just joined a new association last year (http://www.geocities.com/rohai.geo/page.html) and am quite pleased with it so far. Their whole premise is just two things.
1. To follow the teachings of the late OSensei Yuichi Kuda.
2. To be NON-POLITICAL!
#2 is the toughest part of course, and time will tell as to how well it works. So far, I see great things for this group, small as it is. |
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jeffrogers
Blue Belt
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Posts: 322
Location: Camp LaGuardia, Uijongbu, South Korea
Styles: BJJ, Hakutsuru (White Crane Karate), Shaolin Kenpo
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Its human nature people get jealous, they get cocky and envy others becaue of there success. Your always going the some form of * in any thing you do thats the great tao symbol is for. Or I mean the Yin/Yang symbol. Balance in all things. You have good and you have the equally opposite bad in all things. Hopefully some times you can find more good in it and it will be worth while in the long run. If its to much bad. Well time to find something else to do or some where new to train. Just my thoughts. -Jeff |
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*Practice is the key* ^_^
Orange Belt
Joined: 02 Sep 2003
Posts: 213
Styles: No style
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Politics is a good things to influnces. _________________ Somone love one
Somone love two
I love one
That one is myself just have been turn down.... |
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Karateka
Red Belt
Joined: 22 Jun 2001
Posts: 786
Location: North Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Politics allows you to see what Martial Arts training can be and what it should be. I know about the political game where certain instructors try to take other students by offering them discounts and promotions just so that they enhance the club. It is just a nightmare. However, it gives you a valuable lesson in life that helps you determine who you can learn from and who wants to use you. _________________ "Never hit a man while he's down; kick him, its easier"
Sensei Ron Bagley (My Sensei) |
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