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stonecrusher69
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:22 pm    Post subject: Proper Pak Sao Reply with quote

In this video I explain the proper execution and theory of the inside Pak Sao. In the Wing Chun system ,and How it should be done and my reasons why?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAs-nYaKeVE&t=1s
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stonecrusher69 wrote:
In this video I explain the proper execution and theory of the inside Pak Sao. In the Wing Chun system ,and How it should be done and my reasons why?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAs-nYaKeVE&t=1s
Thank for sharing stonecrusher69

The nipple line as you are calling it is "The Yin line"

As the nipples define the borders of Yin and between the Yin line to the shoulders represents the Yang area.

The two vertical lines are the Yin lines, that pass through the nipple, the area between these two lines represent the one Yin gate, from the head down to the toes.

The Yang lines are the vertial lines of the shoulders, the Yang lines and Yin lines are creating two outside gates, from nipple to shoulder.

Keeping the elbow fixed, is the "Imovable elbow principle"

The Pak Sao with energy moving horizontally or sideways from the opponent, violates the forward energy principle; with your minimal version, keeps it in the maximum efficiency principle of Wing Chun.

Doing the Pak Sao while moving in to the opponent should make it a deflection and not a block; as Wing Chun aviods blocking more in favor of parries and reflections.

In your description of Pak Sao, it could also be a palm strike to the side of the opponent's head, in clinch type situation standing or on the ground.

Having said all that, with my version of the dos and don'ts of Wing Chun, I'm in total agreement with your explanations.

Once again Thanx for sharing.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan Armstrong wrote:
stonecrusher69 wrote:
In this video I explain the proper execution and theory of the inside Pak Sao. In the Wing Chun system ,and How it should be done and my reasons why?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAs-nYaKeVE&t=1s
Thank for sharing stonecrusher69

The nipple line as you are calling it is "The Yin line"

As the nipples define the borders of Yin and between the Yin line to the shoulders represents the Yang area.

The two vertical lines are the Yin lines, that pass through the nipple, the area between these two lines represent the one Yin gate, from the head down to the toes.

The Yang lines are the vertial lines of the shoulders, the Yang lines and Yin lines are creating two outside gates, from nipple to shoulder.

Keeping the elbow fixed, is the "Imovable elbow principle"

The Pak Sao with energy moving horizontally or sideways from the opponent, violates the forward energy principle; with your minimal version, keeps it in the maximum efficiency principle of Wing Chun.

Doing the Pak Sao while moving in to the opponent should make it a deflection and not a block; as Wing Chun aviods blocking more in favor of parries and reflections.

In your description of Pak Sao, it could also be a palm strike to the side of the opponent's head, in clinch type situation standing or on the ground.

Having said all that, with my version of the dos and don'ts of Wing Chun, I'm in total agreement with your explanations.

Once again Thanx for sharing.


Thanks.. Glad you liked it.. I left a few things out on the video I wanted to cover but I got the main Idea across.. The Yin and Yang lines I think I heard this terminaolgy from the HFY people. or Benny Meng not sure..
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan Armstrong wrote:
stonecrusher69 wrote:
In this video I explain the proper execution and theory of the inside Pak Sao. In the Wing Chun system ,and How it should be done and my reasons why?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAs-nYaKeVE&t=1s
Thank for sharing stonecrusher69

The nipple line as you are calling it is "The Yin line"

As the nipples define the borders of Yin and between the Yin line to the shoulders represents the Yang area.

The two vertical lines are the Yin lines, that pass through the nipple, the area between these two lines represent the one Yin gate, from the head down to the toes.

The Yang lines are the vertial lines of the shoulders, the Yang lines and Yin lines are creating two outside gates, from nipple to shoulder.

Keeping the elbow fixed, is the "Imovable elbow principle"

The Pak Sao with energy moving horizontally or sideways from the opponent, violates the forward energy principle; with your minimal version, keeps it in the maximum efficiency principle of Wing Chun.

Doing the Pak Sao while moving in to the opponent should make it a deflection and not a block; as Wing Chun aviods blocking more in favor of parries and reflections.

In your description of Pak Sao, it could also be a palm strike to the side of the opponent's head, in clinch type situation standing or on the ground.

Having said all that, with my version of the dos and don'ts of Wing Chun, I'm in total agreement with your explanations.

Once again Thanx for sharing.


Thanks.. Glad you liked it.. I left a few things out on the video I wanted to cover but I got the main Idea across.. The Yin and Yang lines I think I heard this terminaolgy from the HFY people. or Benny Meng not sure..
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Yin/Yang vertical lines, and the three dantiens making up the Nine Wing Chun gates; #similar to the game of X's and O's.

Important for the principle to be able to attack/control the opponent's nine gates and simultaneously protect as many of one's own.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Black Flag Wing Chun tutorial video explains the gates.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5az_f_0hvc
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