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bushido_man96
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

islandman wrote:
thanks.

i just ordered this book and it was a hammer punch.


What book did you order?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was by one of the grandmasters

hwang kee i think

It has forms blocks history terminology and sparring
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

islandman wrote:
it was by one of the grandmasters

hwang kee i think

It has forms blocks history terminology and sparring


Very nice. Where did you get it from? I have one book on TSD, but would like some more.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could always ask your instructor
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ps1 wrote:
you could always ask your instructor


My instructor isn't very big on MA literature. I would be willing to bet that I have read a lot more on the subject than he has.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I train it with a backfist. Which book did you find by Hwan Kee?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a hammer fist in Kang Uk Lee's TSD book.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We always trained as neither hammer nor backfist, but as if the technique was to break a hold.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fosgate wrote:
We always trained as neither hammer nor backfist, but as if the technique was to break a hold.

There are multiple applications of most techniques. This is another way.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott James wrote:
TSD= back fist

Shito Ryu= Hammer fist\block

I like the Shito Ryu application best. Considering that GM KEE "learned the form from a book" he may have just chosen to make it a back fist.

Shito Ryu teachs it as a hammer fist. As you advance you see alternative application as being a downward block, then a perry block (the technique in question), then a foward punch.

Hey Scott James,

How was korea? Our TSD school does backfist, but according to original TSD publications it IS a hammerfist.

Next time we catch up (are you back from Korea) I'll show you my new copy of Hwang Kee's volume.
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