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GS718Trek
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:30 pm    Post subject: Question about this Kyokushin dojo Kun Reply with quote

This question can be applied to both religious and non-religious people.

I visited a well known Kyokushin Karate site and read their Dojo Kun

"
We will train our hearts and bodies for a firm unshaking spirit.
We will pursue the true meaning of the Martial Way, So that in time, our senses may be alert.
With true vigor, we will seek to cultivate a spirit of self denial.
We will observe the rules of courtesy, respect our superiors, and refrain from violence.
We will follow our god, and never forget the true virtue of humility.
We will look upwards to wisdom and strength, not seeking other desires.
All our lives, through the discipline of karate, we will seek to fulfill the true meaning of the kyokushin way.
'



Can someone explain what they mean when they say "we will follow our god" and what "god" they're talking about?


Anyone who trains would be required to recite or follow this Kun, hence it is applicable to people from many walks of life.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iíve never heard of a dojo motto like that and the closest Iíve ever been to that was the navy core values and the sailors creed(forgot the creed like 5 days out of bootcamp)

My personal opinion, people who feel the need to inject their religion into everything are not people I want to hang out around.
Does this mean theyíre a cult? No.
But at the same time I find it hypocritical for a martial artists to claim to be seeking non-violence, even more so in a style like kyokushin which is famous for its violent competitions.

Can you share the link? They might just be using the kyokushin title but not even be KK
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is the link

https://www.kyokushinkaikan.org/en/about/spirit.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No clue, they have some generic pictures up but nothing that looks like itís pictures of their own dojo.

They say their karate is based on real fighting but the oath talks about non-violence.

Between the weird contradictions, lack of any personal pictures, and the weird god stuff Iíd avoid them.
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