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Pancor357
White Belt
Joined: 13 Jul 2018
Posts: 2
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 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:25 pm Post subject: Questionable belt testing |
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| I started taking classes at my dojo about 2 years ago. It's not uncommon (all but 2 for me) for us to have to teach ourselves testing techniques. There is generally one or 2 black belts around but they are generally working on their own stuff. We have a book to work out of, we don't really get more instruction than that. Now that I'm a red belt the techniques are seeming dangerous to do with out being taught first. For example I'm required to demonstrate a shihonage on my partner (another red belt) and have not been taught it. Advice? |
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Bulltahr
Brown Belt
Joined: 08 Mar 2015
Posts: 727
Location: NEW ZEALAND
Styles: Shotokan, Seido Juku
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I would be questioning what you are actually paying your subs for. Doesn't sound like much of a "school" to me. Is there a CI? Speak with him, but from what you have said I would be looking for another school.
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Pancor357
White Belt
Joined: 13 Jul 2018
Posts: 2
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| I think I'm going to switch. But I don't like the feeling of disloyalty about it. |
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mushybees
Orange Belt
Joined: 16 Nov 2014
Posts: 199
Location: UK
Styles: Wado ryu
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| If you're teaching yourself from a book, who do you owe loyalty to and why? |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16247
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Pancor357 wrote: |
| I think I'm going to switch. But I don't like the feeling of disloyalty about it. |
Welcome to KF, Pancor357; glad that you're here!! 
From what your OP speaks about, it's the dojo that's being disloyal to its Student Body. So, I'd speak to the CI!! If that doesn't pan out, then I'd start looking elsewhere.
Good luck, and please let us know how things are going.
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OneKickWonder
Purple Belt
Joined: 17 Feb 2018
Posts: 513
Styles: Tang soo do
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Pancor357 wrote: |
| I think I'm going to switch. But I don't like the feeling of disloyalty about it. |
Be loyal to yourself first.
If you are learning from a book, you can remain loyal if you wish. Just take the book with you and read it at home, in between classes at another school. |
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tallgeese
Black Belt
Joined: 04 May 2008
Posts: 6879
Location: McHenry County, IL
Styles: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Gokei Ryu Kempo Jutsu, MMA, Shootfighting, boxing, kickboxing, JKD, Pekiti Tersia Kali
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IcemanSK
Black Belt
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Posts: 1084
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Styles: Taekwondo Chung Do Kwan
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| sensei8 wrote: |
| Pancor357 wrote: |
| I think I'm going to switch. But I don't like the feeling of disloyalty about it. |
Welcome to KF, Pancor357; glad that you're here!!
From what your OP speaks about, it's the dojo that's being disloyal to its Student Body. So, I'd speak to the CI!! If that doesn't pan out, then I'd start looking elsewhere.
Good luck, and please let us know how things are going.
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First, Welcome Pancor357.
I concur with sensei8, completely. If you're teaching yourself, the dojo is being disloyal to you. Put another way, if you're teaching yourself (and not being taught by chief instructor) who is there to be disloyal to?
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singularity6
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Jun 2017
Posts: 958
Location: Michigan
Styles: Jidokwan Taekwondo and Hapkido, Yoshokai Aikido, ZNIR Iaido, Kendo
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Welcome aboard!
And yeah, I agree with the rest... From what you're saying, the school isn't doing much of anything for you except providing some space and taking your money.
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MatsuShinshii
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1423
Location: Kentucky
Styles: Machimura Suidi Rokudan, Ryukyu Kenpo, Kobudo, Judo
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What is the difference between buying a book and studying at home and what you’ve told us about you’re present situation?
Students join a school to be taught and to receive direction from someone with the skills and knowledge that you do not possess. If your paying to learn from a book go buy one and keep your money.
The whole point is the interaction between teacher and student. Expecting students to teach themselves is ludicrous.
My advice... drop that school and the “instructors”, if you can call them that, like a bad habit and find a real teacher.
I’m obviously doing something wrong and have wasted decades of training and teaching students. If I knew they taught themselves and I didn’t have to teach I could have taken up a new hobby and gone on more vacations. That’s not a martial arts school, it’s a scam. Don’t walk away, run!
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